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Old 07-13-2016, 12:25 PM   #1
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Do you pay for Cummins parts?

I just called Cummins for price and availability on a fuel shut down solenoid for my 6BTA.
The quotes price was $351.00.
He was kind enough to give me the part number 3935649.
I found that part number on the internet for just under $35.00.
So, do you purchase the part sold by Cummins or one that is compatible?
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typical "marine" pricing It's a no brainer get the $35 one!
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Another good source for Cummins Marine parts is here:
Cummins Marine Diesel Repower Specialists
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I do not find it a no brainer at all. I see the cheap ebay parts shipped from China and of unknown quality and for me that's a no-brainer that I wouldn't go near them. Now, someone like Seahorse I would be far more likely to trust.
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typical "marine" pricing It's a no brainer get the $35 one!
First of all, I have no idea who made the $35 part and I have no knowledge of the part other than to know what it is and does.
That being said...I have spent much of my life in the business of automobile maintenance and repair and I've seen more than my share of "knock off" parts that were not worth the time it took to remove them from the box. Parts that didn't fit or that failed or that caused something else to fail.

Of course there are times when the same part, made by the same manufacturer is available for a fraction of the cost somewhere else but in general, I tend to be cautious. If there is not a lot of labor involved in replacing the part, if failure doesn't endanger life or property and you are willing to suck up the labor in the event of a failure then by all means, give it a try!
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Isn't it a fuel solenoid not a shut down solenoid? In other words it need power to allow fuel to flow?
Just want to make sure you are comparing the correct part. There is a difference.
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Isn't it a fuel solenoid not a shut down solenoid? In other words it need power to allow fuel to flow?
Just want to make sure you are comparing the correct part. There is a difference.
The part he's referencing is a shut down solenoid.
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First of all, I have no idea who made the $35 part and I have no knowledge of the part other than to know what it is and does.
That being said...I have spent much of my life in the business of automobile maintenance and repair and I've seen more than my share of "knock off" parts that were not worth the time it took to remove them from the box. Parts that didn't fit or that failed or that caused something else to fail.

Of course there are times when the same part, made by the same manufacturer is available for a fraction of the cost somewhere else but in general, I tend to be cautious. If there is not a lot of labor involved in replacing the part, if failure doesn't endanger life or property and you are willing to suck up the labor in the event of a failure then by all means, give it a try!
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I don't trust other manufacturers especially when it's not a proven manufacturer with a good history and reputation. If it's the OEM manufacturer then the automotive part is good as long as it's not a part that required some form of marineizing. Now sometimes that is very subtle, nothing more than a thin coating or lubricant. I don't believe relevant in this case though as I think this is the same part used in trucks with no change.
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BB, Nice sentiment I used to feel the same way... But realistically, weather we trust or not In many if not all areas.. the other mfg is making or rebuilding for the OEM

Why do so many made in China things look just like Made in USA named items?

quality suffers at both ends.. that which the OEM allows.. and what the "other" provides. Like for example, the metal used for brake drums and rotors..

@ $35 BUY 2!
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BB, Nice sentiment I used to feel the same way... But realistically, weather we trust or not In many if not all areas.. the other mfg is making or rebuilding for the OEM

Why do so many made in China things look just like Made in USA named items?

quality suffers at both ends.. that which the OEM allows.. and what the "other" provides. Like for example, the metal used for brake drums and rotors..

@ $35 BUY 2!
Oh so you're going to go in planning for twice as many failures....You do it your way and I'll do it mine. I'm not buying parts for my engines from an unknown on ebay made in an unknown plant by unknown people. No thanks.

I've seen the damage that can be caused by such a part failure. I prefer to avoid that.
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First of all, I have no idea who made the $35 part and I have no knowledge of the part other than to know what it is and does.
That being said...I have spent much of my life in the business of automobile maintenance and repair and I've seen more than my share of "knock off" parts that were not worth the time it took to remove them from the box. Parts that didn't fit or that failed or that caused something else to fail.

Of course there are times when the same part, made by the same manufacturer is available for a fraction of the cost somewhere else but in general, I tend to be cautious. If there is not a lot of labor involved in replacing the part, if failure doesn't endanger life or property and you are willing to suck up the labor in the event of a failure then by all means, give it a try!
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Bruce yep, but you still don't know who made the part you get from the OEM either. Napa vs autozone.. don't get me started!


and in my business it's the same thing. even long time trade names like westinghouse, honeywell, Johnson, all use "other" mfgs

My diesel needed a water pump. Kubota part # yup, made in china
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Pay 3-400.. I don't care ..not my money yell that the people selling the parts. Sheese! if you can even get a OEM part.
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Bruce yep, but you still don't know who made the part you get from the OEM either. Napa vs autozone.. don't get me started!


and in my business it's the same thing. even long time trade names like westinghouse, honeywell, Johnson, all use "other" mfgs

My diesel needed a water pump. Kubota part # yup, made in china
I don't have to know who made it if I trust the quality control of the manufacturer supplying me. I trust Cummins, MTU, MAN, CAT, Lugger/Deere and a few others. I know it's not perfect, but I'm not the skeptic you are and I spent 25 years in manufacturing dealing with products sourced throughout the world.

As I said...you go your route, I'll go mine. I do know I've never been stranded by a parts failure. Maybe I will be tomorrow. Wasn't today though.
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I found that purchasing Cummins parts for my 6BTA was less costly if I got them at the truck parts store (not like Autozone) instead of from the marine outlet. Did not buy knock-offs for engine-related parts.
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I just called Cummins for price and availability on a fuel shut down solenoid for my 6BTA.
The quotes price was $351.00.
He was kind enough to give me the part number 3935649.
I found that part number on the internet for just under $35.00.
So, do you purchase the part sold by Cummins or one that is compatible?
I would try another Cummins dealer first. Several years ago I bought one for my "C" series Cummins in the charter boat. Pretty sure it was under $100. This is also part of the reason to have a good relationship with a small dealer. With low overhead, they may discount parts. Both my Cat / Cummins dealer and my John Deere dealer treat me well. I make it a point to be friendly and not waste their time. We're on a first name basis. I come through the door with check book in hand.

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American MFG is gone and who do we blame?
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I found that purchasing Cummins parts for my 6BTA was less costly if I got them at the truck parts store (not like Autozone) instead of from the marine outlet. Did not buy knock-offs for engine-related parts.

Where do you think that business got the parts?
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Ok, just got off the phone with my Cummins guy. There are a handful of different solenoids for the "B" engine. They range from $80 to over $300. Definitely need your serial number to get the right one. If I was a betting man, I'd bet your $35 solenoid isn't going to be the fix if you need the $300 one.

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Ok, just got off the phone with my Cummins guy. There are a handful of different solenoids for the "B" engine. They range from $80 to over $300. Definitely need your serial number to get the right one. If I was a betting man, I'd bet your $35 solenoid isn't going to be the fix if you need the $300 one.

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Throw the solenoid over the side of the boat and hear it splash. Get a string and tie it to the shutdown lever on pump. Route string through hole in deck. Pull on string, engine stops.

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