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05-19-2016, 12:43 PM
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City: Meydenbauer Bay Yacht Club
Vessel Name: Lulu (Refugio sold)
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Do my eyes deceive me?
Anyone notice anything alarming about this picture (from a brokerage GB Eastbay 40)?
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05-19-2016, 12:48 PM
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I am a mechanical moron, but I don't see the hydraulic rod connected to anything.
Did I win a Cu-pie Doll
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05-19-2016, 12:55 PM
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City: Port Ludlow
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Do my eyes deceive me?
One of the hoses is patched with zip ties?
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05-19-2016, 01:07 PM
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City: Clayton, NC
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My autopilot keeps the electronic unit far away from large metallic parts due to magnetism influences, but mine is quite old for this frame of reference. This one seems to be attached. But I'm as ignorant as the next guy.
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05-19-2016, 01:28 PM
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City: Campbell River
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Hosing is a nightmare: too long, no valves in case of leaks, hopefully the
clamped on piece is only a chaff guard.
Pump mounted with 1 screw holding it in place.
The ram end is not unusual.
Ted
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05-19-2016, 01:29 PM
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City: Longboat Key, FL
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Well, if that's a hose patch I see, you're going to have a fluid mess there pretty soon.
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05-19-2016, 01:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by healhustler
Well, if that's a hose patch I see, you're going to have a fluid mess there pretty soon.
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I totally missed the patch the first time....It looks like they are using a garden hose.
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05-19-2016, 01:32 PM
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That patch is going to blow! Wonder how old it is?
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05-19-2016, 01:44 PM
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That is obviously not a patch. It's just more than likely chafe protection.
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05-19-2016, 01:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Imnvegas
I am a mechanical moron, but I don't see the hydraulic rod connected to anything.
Did I win a Cu-pie Doll
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it's on the other end.
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05-19-2016, 02:04 PM
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City: Meydenbauer Bay Yacht Club
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Capt.Bill11
That is obviously not a patch. It's just more than likely chafe protection.
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Well...yes, but protecting against chafing where? Another hydraulic hose? To do ANY good there would have to symmetrical protection, right?
My first thought was a patch - but reinforced drinking hose and zip ties?
But there were just so many things...no bleed fittings...long unsupported hose runs...the largish piece of not very thick HDPE held with what appear to be 1/4" bolts (acting as screws? unclear)....and I think that's a "Shadowdrive" (also unsupported).
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05-19-2016, 02:10 PM
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I don't run wiring along hyd lines.
Then there's that 'patch', and the cover on the electrical box on the pump seems to show a small gap, like it isn't installed right.
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05-19-2016, 02:14 PM
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Looks like it was below water at some point...there is a line (darker below & lighter above) on the wood in the background, and the hoses are very dirty above that line and sparkling clean below.
As a prize I will accept any one of the three boats I mentioned in the 'what's the boat of your dreams?' thread
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05-19-2016, 04:02 PM
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City: Meydenbauer Bay Yacht Club
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Larry M
Tough audience. That aside, the thing that amazes me the most, is that this is the only picture of the mechanical systems on the Yacht World listing for the entire boat.
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Yes, the image selection is indeed puzzling.
FWIW, here's the steering gear of another EB 40 - it looks like that HDPE piece is standard. I prefer this AP pump location but perhaps the Garmin is too high to be placed on that support.
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05-19-2016, 04:20 PM
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City: Norfolk, VA
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Not sure if you are supposed to use special fittings or not for hydraulics, but the 3 "els" on the AP unit look to be standard water plumbing pieces. . .
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05-19-2016, 04:37 PM
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I'd say its not a patch but most likely there to stiffen the hose so it prevents the hose from crimping over and would also stop the hose from touching the ram cylinder .
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05-19-2016, 05:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gaston
I'd say its not a patch but most likely there to stiffen the hose so it prevents the hose from crimping over and would also stop the hose from touching the ram cylinder .
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I think it keeps the line from flexing/moving/collapsing under pressure.
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05-19-2016, 05:36 PM
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the hose ends and fittings being used are bronze or brass and are for pneumatic use not hydraulic.
John
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05-19-2016, 05:56 PM
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City: Meydenbauer Bay Yacht Club
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Quote:
Originally Posted by johnma
the hose ends and fittings being used are bronze or brass and are for pneumatic use not hydraulic.
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There you go - there was just so much about this picture that looked "half-assed" and I couldn't really see it all. I do a lot of my own installation work and it always looks (to me) better planned and executed. And then when I see what a true professional can do and it makes me want to try harder and do a better job.
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