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Old 08-09-2014, 07:37 PM   #1
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I looked at a 38 trawler today and have a question about the white and grey substance on the back starboard side of the engine any thoughts of what it could be ... I am thinking the engine is leaking oil. !!! And needs dome major engine work ie gasket .,..engine has about 4600 hrs Thanks for your thoughts
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Old 08-09-2014, 07:46 PM   #2
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I am trying ti figure out how to add a pic to a post
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Old 08-09-2014, 08:11 PM   #3
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Go to "forum support" or somewhere like that. There is instructions on how to post a picture.

Or send me your phone # (PM) and I'll walk you through it.

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Old 08-09-2014, 09:12 PM   #5
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Here is the pic showing the starboard side rear of engine ... What could the white and grey substance ??? Your thoughts ??? Thank you
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Old 08-09-2014, 09:21 PM   #7
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Greetings,
Mr. K. The "mystery" substances are a goop or sealant put on by the owner to stop an oil pan gasket leak. Could be he didn't know how to tighten the oil pan bolts or was too lazy to do so. In any case, if the bolts are in fact tight, the gasket is dead. Bandaid fixes such as this would have me looking long and hard at other areas of the vessel where shoddy repairs might have been made.
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Old 08-09-2014, 09:22 PM   #8
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The oil pan gasket was leaking and the owner dabbed some epoxy on to try to patch it. Not particularly difficult to fix- drain the oil, remove the pan, scrape off all of the epoxy, replace the gasket, bolt up the pan. But it is a tedious job.

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Old 08-09-2014, 09:25 PM   #9
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Looks like someone tried to seal a leak from the outside using
some kinds of pastes
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Old 08-09-2014, 09:27 PM   #10
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Old 08-09-2014, 09:30 PM   #11
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The owner seems to be too cheap to properly maintain the boat.
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Old 08-09-2014, 10:11 PM   #12
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An approach not for the faint of heart. If you have a broker give these instructions to your broker to pass on, if you don't have a broker, tell the seller's broker that:

There are clear signs that the boat has not been maintained and there is a very low likelihood that anyone would buy the boat in this condition, but I am a risk taker. If the seller is willing to pay for a marine survey and an engine survey with the aim of finding out how much it will cost to bring the boat up to decent shape, I may be interested at the right price.
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Old 08-09-2014, 10:24 PM   #13
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It would appear that there were no less than three attempts at that repair or rather quick fixes. It would also appear that they may be working somewhat but I would suggest a new gasket kit. I would look a lot closer at the exhaust manifold, cooler, zinks, and related items too. It only takes a second to pull the zinks out.
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Old 08-10-2014, 02:30 AM   #14
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Diesel Engine Lehman

Is that an injector showing in the first picture? If so, that would indicate the goop is trying to hide a head gasket leak, not an oil pan gasket leak. That's a whole different can of worms.

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Old 08-10-2014, 07:55 AM   #15
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Yes I believe it to be a head gasket that needs to be replaced ... With that said does anyone have any idea of the cost to replace the head gasket on a ford Lehman engine .. I will certainly get a engine survey .. I need to get some info on costs to to the head gasket so I can bring it to the broker when and if I make an offer .. Thanks for your input
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I would just make an offer with the assumption the engine needs to be replaced/rebuilt unless the owner can prove to your satisfaction the engine is fine beyond just a head gasket.

There could be internal issues that fresh oil can be covering up.

So unless you have a series of recent oil tests or he's willing to replace that gasket and put 50 or so hours on the engine with a new oil sample and a good engine survey (which can cost dearly if done correctly).....I would suggest that you just factor in a $15,000 dollar hit to the asking price right off the bat.

If you really want the boat...don't let it stop you...it's just a possible expense down the road we all face one way or another. Even a perfect engine survey doesn't guarantee anything. We all just hate to buy a known probably near term issue.
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Head gasket repair = $2,400

If no internal damage
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Old 08-10-2014, 05:13 PM   #18
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Being the boat is on the hard ... It would be difficult to start the engine and give it a good test to see if any internal parts are effective....I will hopefully talk with the broker and hope that he has had a chance to speak with the owner for some feedback on the engine and the goop ... I will keep you all informed of what is said and if I go further...
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Old 08-10-2014, 05:47 PM   #19
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Is the boat listed with a broker?
Maybe we could have a web address to it so we can have a look at it.
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Old 08-10-2014, 06:00 PM   #20
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That gray stuff appears to me to be JB Weld,an epoxy like substance that's supposed to harden into a metal like substance.I've used it on projects.I've never had luck with it.I agree with the others.It seems some serious maintenance issues have been seriously neglected.

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