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Old 05-28-2012, 04:21 PM   #21
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Did you bleed at the injection pump or at the injectors?
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Old 05-28-2012, 04:24 PM   #22
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bled all the way to the injectors.
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Old 05-28-2012, 04:35 PM   #23
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Fuel solenoid.
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Checked the stop solenoid, it was not engaged and functioning normally.
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Old 05-28-2012, 07:04 PM   #25
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I'm going back to the injectors....Those little basterds get me everytime. Pull em' There in need of some loving..........
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Old 05-28-2012, 07:55 PM   #26
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Remember guys, this problem is already solved, I'm just playing the game seeing if you can figure it out.

I may be a little too vauge on this one, I'm trying not to give it away too early.

Another hint. The engine stalled when the not so good delivery skipper was pulling into the dock and would not restart after that.

Also, I never touched the boat to fix this one. My brother was on the phone in the boat, I was 400 miles away on the other end of the phone.
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Old 05-28-2012, 09:04 PM   #27
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40 hours of running; is it possible that the port tank was run dry?
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Old 05-28-2012, 09:28 PM   #28
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Plenty of fuel in the tank.
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Old 05-28-2012, 09:30 PM   #29
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It was not the injectors.
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Old 05-28-2012, 09:46 PM   #30
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Throttle cable popped loose at the injector pump, or fouled so that it wouldn't let fuel get to the injectors?
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Old 05-28-2012, 09:53 PM   #31
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Good guess Keith, especially given the cable problem I hinted at in the first game, but no, that was not it. There was fuel all the way to the injectors. Engine would turn over but would not start.

When the nuts on the injector lines were loosened fuel would spray from the injectors when the starter turned the engine over.
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It is cable related though, sort of.
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Old 05-28-2012, 10:04 PM   #33
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In the scheme of things, injectors are very rarley the problem. Very rarely.
Stop cabl epartially pulled? Not enough to notice at the helm, but enough to shut the fuel off?
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Old 05-28-2012, 10:13 PM   #34
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I'll amend my earlier rule slightly and say that if it has AIR and fuel and it turns over then it runs. So if the injectors really were getting fuel then there has to be some sort of blockage either creating enough exhaust backpressure or cutting off the intake air to prevent it from starting.
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Did it have anything to do with the delivery skipper's operation of the boat?
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Old 05-28-2012, 10:54 PM   #36
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Is it stuck in gear? Shifter issue?
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Old 05-28-2012, 11:02 PM   #37
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Not really familiar with Perkins engines. Is there a manual stop cable that could have been pulled in error, then broke or disconnected when pushed back in; leaving the engine in a stop position?
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Budd, then Mahal then Bob got it. When the delivery skipper stalled the engine he left it in gear on the FB.

The Volvo mechanic found the loose bleed screw and ASSUMED that was the only problem. After he tightened it up he tried to start it a few times, with no success. He called me and I walked him through the bleeding process. He tried to start it some more, then gave up, saying it was the injector pump or an injector.

My brother Bill called me and I listened to the engine over the phone and guessed that it was in gear (I had a nagging neutral safety switch issue on my Mecury OB, so it was on my mind), we put it in neutral and it still wouldn't start. After a while I remembered reading what someone really smart wrote about backpressure on this forum (maybe FF?) and how it would prevent starting in this situation. I had Bill crack the hose to the top of the exhaust manifold and it started right up.

As you all have probably figured by now, (Bob especially) I'm not a great troubleshooter, but I felt good about that day.

I thought you guys would get it earlier.

Anybody else have one?

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When the delivery skipper stalled the engine he left it in gear on the FB.
That actually happened to me on my maiden delivery voyageof my current boat. It only stumped me for a few minutes though. It was pretty easy to diagnose because the boat was moving when I was turning it over.
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Old 05-29-2012, 08:50 AM   #40
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That actually happened to me on my maiden delivery voyageof my current boat. It only stumped me for a few minutes though. It was pretty easy to diagnose because the boat was moving when I was turning it over.
Wow, if you had a big enough battery bank and a strong enough starter could you use it as a get home engine?

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