|
|
06-11-2015, 08:00 PM
|
#1
|
TF Site Team
City: Paris,TN
Vessel Name: Slo-Poke
Vessel Model: Jorgensen custom 44
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 3,749
|
Deutz diesel 130 hp
What's to know about these engines ? I saw a Grand Banks Alaskan on YW with these engines .
__________________
Marty
|
|
|
06-11-2015, 08:17 PM
|
#2
|
Technical Guru
City: Wilmington, NC
Vessel Name: Louisa
Vessel Model: Custom Built 38
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 6,194
|
Deutz has made a really wide variety of engines for many decades. I think most agree the quality is good. But it would help to know which models they were, to tell if they were appropriate to the boat.
|
|
|
06-11-2015, 08:26 PM
|
#3
|
TF Site Team
City: Paris,TN
Vessel Name: Slo-Poke
Vessel Model: Jorgensen custom 44
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 3,749
|
The listing says Model Id229-6 . Listing says less than 1000 hrs and this is a 1971 Grand Banks . Must be a re build .Are parts hard to come by ?
__________________
Marty
|
|
|
06-11-2015, 08:42 PM
|
#4
|
Guru
City: Hotel, CA
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 8,323
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pack Mule
Are parts hard to come by ?
|
Not in my area and the Internet is overflowing with parts sources. Deutz has been in business for decades.
__________________
Craig
It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they've been fooled - Mark Twain
|
|
|
06-11-2015, 08:49 PM
|
#5
|
Technical Guru
City: Wilmington, NC
Vessel Name: Louisa
Vessel Model: Custom Built 38
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 6,194
|
|
|
|
06-11-2015, 08:59 PM
|
#6
|
Guru
City: Longboat Key, FL
Vessel Name: Bucky
Vessel Model: Krogen Manatee 36 North Sea
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 5,196
|
I don't know any marin-ized versions, but it's hard to beat a Deutz for quality. I was traded a few 80-06 tractor engines back in the 80's and from what I recall, the tolerances were so close that the engines didn't even have head gaskets.
__________________
Larry
"When life gets hard, eat marshmallows”.
|
|
|
06-11-2015, 09:08 PM
|
#7
|
TF Site Team
City: Paris,TN
Vessel Name: Slo-Poke
Vessel Model: Jorgensen custom 44
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 3,749
|
Thanks for all the info guys . I'm probably crazy for even thinking about a wood boat . It's on the same waterway that we are on and only a couple hrs by car from my house . Wood boat in the south is probably not a good idea .
__________________
Marty
|
|
|
06-11-2015, 09:47 PM
|
#8
|
Enigma
City: Slicker?
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 16,540
|
Greetings,
Mr. PM. Aw c'mon, your a wood craftsman, have access to the proper materials, William is almost done AND it's only another 17'. You know you wanna...
__________________
RTF
|
|
|
06-12-2015, 05:31 AM
|
#9
|
Senior Member
City: Ft Myers, Florida
Vessel Name: Homegrown
Vessel Model: Roberts TY 43
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 209
|
I have Deutz engines in some heavy equipment. The 80-90 hp oil cooled engines are bullet proof.
Conall
|
|
|
06-12-2015, 05:35 AM
|
#10
|
Guru
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 22,553
|
Listing says less than 1000 hrs and this is a 1971 Grand Banks . Must be a re build .Are parts hard to come by ?
NONE will be at the boat yard , but Deutz has great industrial and farm suppliers that should be 1/2 the pricing on "marine".
These are honestly rated engines , not pick up truck or taxi cab power.
|
|
|
06-12-2015, 05:53 AM
|
#11
|
Guru
City: Melbourne, FL
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 1,731
|
That's correct, the head is aluminum and you put lapping compound on the top of the cylinder and lap each head to the top of the mating cylinder. They have been the high reliability engine for 70+ years but through a series of financial deals have gotten in bed with just about everyone. Stay away from Ruggerini engines, as an example.
That engine is a water cooled engine model, which as a traditional head and cylinder configuration, not the air cooled one.
|
|
|
06-12-2015, 10:09 AM
|
#12
|
TF Site Team
City: Paris,TN
Vessel Name: Slo-Poke
Vessel Model: Jorgensen custom 44
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 3,749
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by RT Firefly
Greetings,
Mr. PM. Aw c'mon, your a wood craftsman, have access to the proper materials, William is almost done AND it's only another 17'. You know you wanna...
|
No it ain't gonna happen . It was a long shot anyway . I was thinking ( dreaming ) if the guy was ready to downsize and get rid of the high maintenance I could trade him William plus some boot . We are only 3 days from each other on the Cumberland . Doesn't matter anyway after my wife got thru whopping on me I would be in no condition to work on the GB . Thanks guys for all the info .
__________________
Marty
|
|
|
06-13-2015, 06:39 AM
|
#13
|
Guru
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 22,553
|
The hobby with a wooden boat is maintaining a wooden boat.
The hobby with a plastic boat is either dockside cottage , or going cruising.
What hobby interests do you have?
|
|
|
06-13-2015, 06:53 AM
|
#14
|
TF Site Team
City: Paris,TN
Vessel Name: Slo-Poke
Vessel Model: Jorgensen custom 44
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 3,749
|
I SEEM to enjoy the woodworking, varnishing and painting . Get bored sitting at the dock . I only have weekends , afternoons and a couple weeks off every year from work so haven't really had the time to cruise longer than a week or so . Might like it as a hobby but don't know yet . My boat has a lot more wood on it than it did 3 years ago so that must mean something. This Grand Banks would probably be to big of a step for us right now . But I like it and it's close to home .
__________________
Marty
|
|
|
06-13-2015, 09:10 AM
|
#15
|
Guru
City: Concrete Washington State
Vessel Name: Willy
Vessel Model: Willard Nomad 30'
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 18,738
|
Marty I looked,
That boat is a monster compared to William. That's the big issue.
And she's been in fresh water. Usually a wood boat in sea water has an OK to good hull but rot in the cabin and decks. This boat needs a very good survey for anybody to open their other eye to look at it.
If you want a bigger wood boat go look at a GB 32. And if you want a project working w wood cut off the stern and extend it. A GB 32 is much bigger than William but still tiny compared to the Alaskan. Listen to your wife. Forgettit. If you getit you'll never do anything but work on that boat. And unlike most on TF I like wood boats. I'd even consider a wood GB 32.
__________________
Eric
North Western Washington State USA
|
|
|
06-13-2015, 12:01 PM
|
#16
|
TF Site Team
City: Paris,TN
Vessel Name: Slo-Poke
Vessel Model: Jorgensen custom 44
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 3,749
|
Eric I'm pretty sure I have more beam on William than a GB32 . The GB 32 will have more cabin space but a whole lot less covered deck space and no walk thru to engine space .
__________________
Marty
|
|
|
06-13-2015, 12:26 PM
|
#17
|
Guru
City: Concrete Washington State
Vessel Name: Willy
Vessel Model: Willard Nomad 30'
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 18,738
|
oK good Marty,
I'll keep Willy and you keep William .......
__________________
Eric
North Western Washington State USA
|
|
|
06-13-2015, 12:33 PM
|
#18
|
TF Site Team
City: Paris,TN
Vessel Name: Slo-Poke
Vessel Model: Jorgensen custom 44
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 3,749
|
You're absolutely right Eric . I started this thread after a funky day a work . One of those days that you want to sale out and sail off . If your boat still puts a smile on your face as I think ours do then they are doing what they are supposed to do .
__________________
Marty
|
|
|
06-14-2015, 09:39 AM
|
#19
|
Guru
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 22,553
|
"I SEEM to enjoy the woodworking, varnishing and painting ."
Stuff other folks either hate or have little enjoyment of.
I See income potential here!!!
Come South , you can start at the bow!!!!
|
|
|
06-24-2015, 10:11 AM
|
#20
|
TF Site Team
City: Paris,TN
Vessel Name: Slo-Poke
Vessel Model: Jorgensen custom 44
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 3,749
|
I have to go to Nashville next week . I'm going by and take a look at this
( just from the dock only ) . I have to get this thing out of my head .
__________________
Marty
|
|
|
|
|
Thread Tools |
Search this Thread |
|
|
Display Modes |
Linear Mode
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
» Trawler Discussions |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|