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Old 04-11-2015, 03:12 PM   #1
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Cat 3208 starboard engine quit

Moving our boat to the new slip today the starboard engine quit. Californian 42'.

I suspected and empty outboard starboard fuel tank. Called TOWBOAT US - best $160 I ever spent. We added 5 gal of diesel to tank but she still will not fire.

New to this engine so knowledge is minimal. Does it self prime or is there now air in fuel system? If air in system should I use the primer pump? Manual says there ought to be one. I want check all I can before I call mech.

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Old 04-11-2015, 03:29 PM   #2
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Greetings,
Mr. frg. OK. First things first...Are you in the slip and securely tied up? Do you have cold beverages on board? Do you have power and water hooked up? Are the beds made? Have you had lunch? If no to any of the questions, do it now!
Yes, you probably have to bleed the air out of the lines and injection pump soooo....Have a cold pint, relax, perhaps have a nap, take Patrick for a walk on the beach and let someone who knows more about 3208's than I do talk you through the process. You're home. Chill man. Oh, and welcome to the wonderful world of boat ownership.
Pee Ass: I wouldn't be calling a mechanic just yet. Now's the time to learn troubleshooting 101. I don't hear the pshssst...of the beer cap opening yet....
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Old 04-11-2015, 03:38 PM   #3
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What about that delivery captain you had on board? He should be able to bleed the lines to the pump with no trouble showing you at the same time how its done. Or better yet have you do it per his instructions. While at it change out the filter in your racor...good to know.
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Yes, we are nicely tucked in, air is on and drinks are poured. In chill mode. It was a challenge on just port engine but i got her in just fine.

Agreed on not calling mech yet. I want to figure it out myself if I can.
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Not all delivery captains are mechs.
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Yes, we are nicely tucked in, air is on and drinks are poured. In chill mode. It was a challenge on just port engine but i got her in just fine.

Agreed on not calling mech yet. I want to figure it out myself if I can.
Towboat didn't put you in the slip?
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Cat 3308 starboard engine quit

"That delivery Captain". He was worthless as tits on a bull. He almost shit himself when engine alarm went off. I calmly told him to take the wheel and what course to steer. My son and I proceeded downstairs to insure no smoke or fire and to assess the situation. I'd been better off taking that 200 bucks and throwing it in the drink! Or better yet buying booze with it! 😄

He told me once I had her docked, " if she was an outboard I could help. Don't know anything about diesels".
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He told me once I had her docked, " if she was an outboard I could help. Don't know anything about diesels".
Sounds one of those captains that can fix anything, as long the battery in his cell phone is charged up.
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On secondary filter is a primer pump that you unscrew. Then plunger comes out and you can pump it. If it is airbound, plunger will act like it is doing nothing. If primed, plunger will be hard to push. Pump it til it gets hard, best to top up the racor first. Pump pump pump pump. Then pump some more. Once hard, use 3/4" inch wrench to crack loose injector line nuts right where they go into cylinder head, Crank til it spits, then tighten up. Motor should then start on a few cyl, run like snot, then clear up.
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3308 or 3208?
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Old 04-11-2015, 06:43 PM   #11
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Thanks Ski! They are 3208's Ol Deckhand
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Ski has got the procedure covered. I was going to post a picture... but alas.. this forum is a pita to put pictures on unless you do it a lot...

Just a thought too... though 5 gallons should be plenty, depending on how big the tank, how the boat is sitting and where the fuel pickup is - you may need a bit more.

Also... depending on your primary filtration type - you will probably see air in the bowl. It is a good "watch point" to see if you are getting anywhere moving fuel towards the engine.
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Old 04-12-2015, 08:42 AM   #14
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It's all love for us. Of course when someone is in love there is also frustration,

Top of my list now is to figure out how to get a decent tank measuring system in this boat.

There is no way to know how much fresh water there is, no way to know how full waste tank is, and, as I learned the hard way, the original fuel tank gauges cannot be trusted either.

Not wanting to send this post of track so no need to comment on solutions to this thought. I know what they are. Just relaying my current frustration in my Brand new love affair with Ten Knots. It's not her fault. She just needs some TLC.
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Greetings,
Mr. frg. I hear ya brother. As I stated in post #2 and along identical sentiments expressed by Mr. FW "...welcome to the wonderful world of boat ownership.". There are several threads dealing with tankage measurement.
More to the point, have you succeeded in restarting that motor yet? What's the progress on that?
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Cat 3308 starboard engine quit

RT, haven't touched it. I will get to her on Mon. Just gonna spend today cleaning and relaxing.

As u know I still am recovering from a broken back so, easy does it for me.

If I go down the hole Im gonna have a ll tools I need and a clear plan.
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Tank Tender

I like this guage which the PO installed on our boat. Simple air pressure measurment. Works great.
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Be very careful if you decide to crack the nuts to the injectors right at the heads. The tube going to the injector can be twisted if the nut is overly tight. You sometimes have to remove the valve cover to use a wrench in the backside. Best to start at the pump itself and crack those lines first to see if there is fuel.

If you have never done this before it maybe cheap insurance to hire a mechanic and watch.
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If you have never done this before it maybe cheap insurance to hire a mechanic and watch.

I have a friend in the industry and he knows a cat mech. I agree mainly cause I have no photos and no clear idea where everything is.

If I see it once I'll have it down
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PROGRESS! I pumped and pumped and pumped. She now sounds like she want to crank.

After a little breakfast, more pumping!
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