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Old 04-13-2015, 08:51 AM   #21
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Don't burn up the starter. Crank 5-10sec, then pump some more. Crank, pump, crank etc. Sometimes air in inj lines works itself out, sometimes need to crack the nuts. Helps to adv throttle to where about 1200rpm would be, don't push it full.
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Old 04-13-2015, 08:59 AM   #22
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Old 04-13-2015, 09:59 AM   #23
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My 3208s had a small priming valve just in front of the injection pump.

Usually they had plastic lines leading to the bilge to collect the fuel.

After the secondary filled...it was a couple pumps till solid fuel came from the priming valve...then every time the 3208 would start in less than 20 sec cranking.

I never ran them out of fuel but did starve on once because of filter clogging.

My friend who is a 3208 specialist said another 20 seconds or so past that for empty injector lines should do it or there are other issues.
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Bear with me for being just a little proud but the Admiral and I are so happy we figured out or first real issue and fixed it ourselves. Even better than that, zero dollars spent from our quickly dwindling cruising fund!

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Isn't it a great feeling when you figure it out yourself and make the repair? Sorry to hear about that delivery captain...Now is a good time to practice changing out a racor filter (if you have one). If you loose prime you know how to solve it! Ya gotta love those cats, a fast spin of the starter and those engines come to life quickly.
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Mr. frg. CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!! Now put on a shirt....
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If after making certain that you have fuel and the line is bled, it still won't start, check the solenoid shut off. It should be a round vertical object about 2" diameter/about 4" tall just behind the fuel injection pump in the top middle of the front section of the engine. Tap on it. If still won't start, there are two bolts holding it down. Take it off. See if it will start. If it will start to shut the engine down just push the little lever down in the hole.
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Old 04-13-2015, 11:29 AM   #28
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PSNEELD added the part that Ski-NC left out about the little bleed valve on top. Fr. G do you have an engine manual? If not PM me your address and I will send you an extra one that I have. My engines are 1988 3208T/As....Tom
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Well done, Padre! Now "Rev" em up and go buy more fuel!! It's another "cha-ching", but it feels good having full fuel tanks.
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Depending on your exhaust system setup you can ruin your engine by salt water flooding if you crank to much without starting. You need to know if you need to shut off the cooling seacock when needing to crank without starting.

Water-lift systems with the outlet above the highest point of the manifold will get you in trouble.

Good job on bleeding the engine, a task that you may need again and now it's easy peasy. You owe yourself 100 bucks an hour as a repair fee.
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Cat 3208 starboard engine quit

Just an observation after spending couple days in bilge looking around: the external racor filters are in a tight, horrible location.

I suppose it is possible to put longer hoses on and move them to an easier to access location. Wondering how big a job that would be.

Can't believe no one has done it before now. UGH!
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Just an observation after spending couple days in bilge looking around: the external racor filters are in a tight, horrible location.

I suppose it is possible to put longer hoses on and move them to an easier to access location. Wondering how big a job that would be.

Can't believe no one has done it before now. UGH!
Hmmm... If they're that difficult to get to, then maybe the PO didn't replace them as often as they should have.

That would be one of my first/next projects - to at least get them replaced ASAP. After that (or in concert with) look at getting them moved to a more convenient location. If something is too hard to get to, the preventine maintenance may be too infrequently done as well.
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Hmmm... If they're that difficult to get to, then maybe the PO didn't replace them as often as they should have.



That would be one of my first/next projects - to at least get them replaced ASAP. After that (or in concert with) look at getting them moved to a more convenient location. If something is too hard to get to, the preventine maintenance may be too infrequently done as well.

Agreed. Seems they should be within 3 ft of primary filter. By those numbers I could at least get them inboard of the engines where I have some room to maneuver.

Now all I have to do is crawl back down there and see what model they are. 😱
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Agreed. Seems they should be within 3 ft of primary filter. By those numbers I could at least get them inboard of the engines where I have some room to maneuver.

Now all I have to do is crawl back down there and see what model they are. 😱
The Racor primary filter doesn't need to be located in proximity to the engine mounted secondary filter. My Racors are mounted near the tank outlet, alongside the inboard side of the tank. It's probably a 5-6 ft hose length to the lift pump on the engine stbd side, then to the secondary filter on the engine port side, then to the high pressure pump before the injectors.
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The Racor primary filter doesn't need to be located in proximity to the engine mounted secondary filter. My Racors are mounted near the tank outlet, alongside the inboard side of the tank. It's probably a 5-6 ft hose length to the lift pump on the engine stbd side, then to the secondary filter on the engine port side, then to the high pressure pump before the injectors.
Mine sit in the middle of a bulkhead, behind the engines dead center.
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Well, there's a new sheriff in town. Gonna be some changes for the sake of my old back!
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Nope, not acceptable!

The Admrial (Betty Jo) has not yet promoted you from bilge monkey to boat boy, so toughen up, put a back brace on and get back to work!

Betty Jo, opps the Admiral will inform the TF staff (the rest of us) that you have been promoted!

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So, I will be changing out the primary racors for both engines this week. Questions:
1. I know I have to top off the racors with fuel. If I change the secondary filters - mounted on the engine, do I fill those with fuel too?

2. I am assuming I have to shut off fuel before removing secondary filters. Do I also have to do something similar when changing engine fuel filters?

Spank u very much 😆
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Nope, not acceptable!

The Admrial (Betty Jo) has not yet promoted you from bilge monkey to boat boy, so toughen up, put a back brace on and get back to work!

Betty Jo, opps the Admiral will inform the TF staff (the rest of us) that you have been promoted!

Quit your cry'in and get back below!

That's some tough love right there. The Admiral loves it!
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