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Old 02-10-2012, 12:33 PM   #81
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RE: Cat 3208 n.a. coolant leak

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skipperdude wrote:Coolant.
Another freebee. Another buddy of mine owns a fast lube type of place. When they do flush and fill on auto radiators they recycle the old antifreeze.

I need about 40 quarts so once again we have swapped for a boat ride.

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That may be a false savings.* You are getting a mix of some very depleted *coolant and who knows what else is in there because of what folks add for various reasons such as sealers or God knows what else.*

Please read this article:

http://www.rvcruzer.com/coolant.php

Then if you don't think that your whole engine is worth a $150 (10 GAL @ $15 a GAL)*then use the free stuff.

Not me.
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Old 02-10-2012, 01:03 PM   #82
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Thanks JD I read the entire article and talked to Cat in there Technical support department.

The 3208 is a Dry cylinder the article referred to a sleeved engine of which the 3208 is not. So no water jacket. i.e. no cavitation on the piston walls.

The tec guy said It should be fine using the recycled coolant. Thanks for the thought There is a lot Of stuff I do not know.* I think it will be O.K. I'm gonna take the risk anyway.

I will run it for the season and I had plans on installing a drain valve on*the bottom of the block. Something with a shutoff valve on it and swap out the coolant and do a complete drain and flush. Just not in the budget for this year.

Thanks again.

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Old 02-10-2012, 01:59 PM   #83
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Thanks JD I read the entire article and talked to Cat in there Technical support department.

The 3208 is a Dry cylinder the article referred to a sleeved engine of which the 3208 is not. So no water jacket. i.e. no cavitation on the piston walls.

The tec guy said It should be fine using the recycled coolant. Thanks for the thought There is a lot Of stuff I do not know.* I think it will be O.K. I'm gonna take the risk anyway.

I will run it for the season and I had plans on installing a drain valve on*the bottom of the block. Something with a shutoff valve on it and swap out the coolant and do a complete drain and flush. Just not in the budget for this year.

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*Sounds good but take a sample and have it analyzed so that you can add anything that is missing.

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Old 02-11-2012, 04:37 AM   #84
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swap out the coolant and do a complete drain and flush.

http://www.penray.com/images/201549_...eCleaner_2.pdf


This is the proper cleaner .

NEW pink antifreeze and distilled water ONLY.

Crapping an engine , heat exchanger and HW heater to save the price of a couple of Pizzas is not worth the risk at least to me.
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Old 02-11-2012, 03:53 PM   #85
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Good work SD.Best of luck on startup and test run.I have to agree on the coolant , maybe if all goes well on testrun drain it out and put in the correct new coolant, the stuff that gets drained out of automotime engines can and often deos have all sorts of stuff added and the ph balance is probably way off aswell.
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Old 02-12-2012, 05:55 AM   #86
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What ever you do for the start up, NO ETHER!

OK if the engine space is below 0deg F , maybe a single 2 second squirt,

But otherwise NO ETHER. Changing pistons is harder than pulling the head.
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Cat 3208 n.a. coolant leak

Regarding the coolant: I talked at length with my friend and was assured the the system he has for reconditioning the coolant is more than adequate. The used coolant is cycled through numerous stages that balance the P.H. as well as adding the Supplemental Coolant Additives to make it as good as new.

I'm a big fan or recycling. So I'm going with it.

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After rounding up the parts and tools needed for completion.* The manafold gasket being the biggest thing on the list.

Everything went together like they had eyes.

I first installed the manafolds and next the Injector clamp.

The small aluminum cap for the end of the rockerarm was next after following all the torque specs. I was done with the engine.

Tne next step was to reinstall the raw water pump, alternator and belts.

I opened the valve on the fuel supply and pumped the priming pump till I met resistance.

I crossed my fingers and turned the Key.

The engine roared to life but with a knock and fuel spurting from on of the injectors and a small puddle of fuel under the valve body on top of the fuel pump.

it stalled after about 3 seconds. I dissasemblet the fuel line to the injector* and found a small chip of paint clogging the injector adapter. a quick shot of parts cleaner and a reconnect I tightened a bolt that I had lkoosened to remove a ground wire and turned the key again.

She came right back to life and settled down to a low idle with narry a knock or rattle.

I was so blown away I couldn't believeit I actually did a bit of a Newfie Jig.*

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*She came right back to life and settled down to a low idle with narry a knock or rattle.

I was so blown away I couldn't believeit I actually did a bit of a Newfie Jig.*
*I know the feeling.* When I did the valve job on my port engine, that was my first experience busting the heads off of*a diesel engine.* It's very exhilarating to have a project like that come together.* Much better than paying someone else to perform the magic!!

Good for you!!

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******** Outstanding!

******** The "crew" has voted on it and we want you to have this "Master****** Mechanic" trophy. Well done!


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I was so blown away I couldn't believeit I actually did a bit of a Newfie Jig.*

-- Edited by skipperdude on Sunday 12th of February 2012 06:36:56 PM
*Great.* Have you wiped that smile off of your face yet.* Let me know if it is gone by morning.

One tip.* Use*six or eight point*box end*wrench to tighten or loosen the nut on a rocker.* Way less chance of coming off and rounding the corners.
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Old 02-13-2012, 08:29 AM   #92
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One tip.* Use*six or eight point*box end*wrench to tighten or loosen the nut on a rocker.* Way less chance of coming off and rounding the corners.

*Thanks JD right on with that. I think I just put that wrench on there to show what I was doing.

Next week I will do the break in. Only because I didn't bring the oil for an oil change.

*A couple of the boys were on board when I fired her up and were suprised that I didn't have to bleed the injectors.

I guess that the fuel pump being full of fuel was all that was required to get it to light off. As I said before all I did was pump up the priming pump.

I know the injectors were empty because I had to pull the caps off to change the O rings.

This was a big job for me I hope you can see my apprehension when you look at how far down I had to take the engine to start rebuilding.

The first pic is where the water pump*was to go.

Next is the block and pistons port and starboard

the last*2 pic's show the finished product including the rebuilt heat exchanger. from a coolant leak to a major rebuild. Wheww!!

Almost done.

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damn i am impressed.. in awe.
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Well this weekend was the final on this project.

Changed the oil and fired her up again I let it idle untill the temp guage started showing an increase then ran it up to 1/2 the rated RPM for the engine. after about about 30 min it slowley took it up to 2800 RPM the rated RPM for the engine. Just following*Da Book as FF would say.

Man*I have to admit she sounded great.

No coolant leak as far as I could tell.

She seems to have a slightly different sound. More even. Sort of a purr. I think the kitty likes her new parts.

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Good work, you certainly stick to your saying "if you cant repair it you shouldnot have it"
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No coolant leak as far as I could tell.
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Changed the oil and fired her up again I let it idle untill the temp guage started showing an increase then ran it up to 1/2 the rated RPM for the engine. after about about 30 min it slowley took it up to 2800 RPM the rated RPM for the engine. Just following*Da Book as FF would say.

Man*I have to admit she sounded great.

No coolant leak as far as I could tell.

She seems to have a slightly different sound. More even. Sort of a purr. I think the kitty likes her new parts.

SD

Glad all is well.* Now admit it.* It wasn't as bad as you thought.* Is the grin gone yet?
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Thanks folks you are to kind.

It sure is a good feeling knowing that the heart and sole of the boat is strong and healthy.

*As she go's now there is nothing mechanical or electrical that*I haven't gone through and rebuilt ( Usually Overbuilt )as good as new.

I don't think I could buy a new boat put together any better than The Apache II.

All systems are go and 100%

As they say in Oz* "No worries mate"

I like it.

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SD::::You are my hero!!:smile:
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I thought I had it all locked down and took the boat for a ride last weekend.

when we got back to the harbor I opened the hatches and discovered diesel all over the top of the motor it was stained red.

The only thing red was a dye I had put in my hydraulic pump chasing a leak. So what was it doing on top of the engine?

Turns out. After a wipe down and a restart that one of the injector lines had developed a leak the red color was*rust *from the steel line.

It leaked right where the clamp is that holds the fuel line assembly together.

When I pulled the assembly off to do the rebuild I must have caused a leak. Very high pressure.

$70.00 from cat. Expensive little bugger. Now do I replace the leaking one or do them all?

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