Baudouin marine diesel engines

[Blissboat]

Recently trade publications have been reporting on New York City's new fleet of high-speed catamaran ferries under construction in Louisiana (at the Horizon and MetalShark yards). The engines chosen are Baudouin 6M26.3s - six cylinders, 815 hp at 2100 rpm. This, after a reportedly rigorous competitive search across the Caterpillar, Cummins, MAN product lines and others. Advantages: high power-to-weight, reliability, serviceability, and low emissions.

I'm surprised, and curious. Have others heard of this French manufacturer? I had not, but maybe that just shows how provincial I am down here in Jacksonville, Florida. The company makes nothing but marine propulsion engines and gensets. They power a lot of workboats.

A search for the name on BoatDiesel turns up only three posts.

Baudouin's lineup starts with the 6 W105M, a six-cylinder turbo-ed engine weighing about 1780#, rated at 185 hp. If their products are as magical as NYC's Citywide Ferry Service seems to think they are, I wonder if they're worth considering for a repower. Parts and service are question marks, of course. The U.S. importer and service vendor is Hugo Stamp, HQ-ed in Ft. Lauderdale, with locations on both coasts and the Gulf of Mexico.

Or maybe NYC Citywide Ferry is making a boneheaded purchase that they'll live to regret.

 

[RT Firefly]

Greetings,
Mr. B. Baudouin. Good grief. I haven't heard that name for at least 10 years. The only vessel and application I'm aware of is/was a ferry boat (maybe 50'-wooden) we took from Mahe to either Praislin or La Digue islands in the Seychelles. The Seychelles were once a French colony (mid to late 18th century). I had never heard of the make up until that time either.

 

[Steve]

Follow the money! Somebody's brother in law must have the Baudoin agency!
I remember these in some of the ex French African colonies but never saw one anywhere else. Good engines, but spares and tech help?

 

[Lou_tribal]

Follow the money! Somebody's brother in law must have the Baudoin agency!
I remember these in some of the ex French African colonies but never saw one anywhere else. Good engines, but spares and tech help?

Come on why because you do not know it and it is french must you think it is not good and of course a fraud?
This company is existing for more years than I am (and you are) on earth. I was not even a spermatozoid (and same for you) that they were making marine engine. Maybe you never heard about it because its market is not leisure boat but more professional ship like fishing boat or tug boat.
About spares, just think that when this company started its business, caterpillar was not even yet created so I guess it is legitimate to think that you may continue to find spare or tech help for some years from now.

 

[RT Firefly]

Greetings,
Mr. L_t. I don't think anyone suggested Baudoin made bad engines or that the fact they were made in France made them bad. I think the issue is that in North America they are not at all common so finding a dealer or parts might be much more difficult than for a Caterpillar or a Cummins. I suspect finding Ford Lehman parts might be difficult in France as well.

 

[Lou_tribal]

Well I guess that when NYC transportation is acquiring something like boat and engine they do not need to search for part or agency as they get the professional service that come along so spare parts should not be an issue. When my employer is buying a locomotive from GE they don't have to think about spares or support, it is just part of the contract.
Regarding my comment, just that I find something like "Follow the money! Somebody's brother in law must have the Baudoin agency!" a bit arrogant. But ok I grew up near the place this company is installed so maybe my heart missed a beat

 

[101TUG]

History from Mr Charles Baudouin is from 1902 he doing casting and in 1918 he create Moteur Bauduin and build marine engine.
he started with 5HP gas engine with gear box for pleasure boat.
1921 7HP gas engine
1922 all gas engine from 3HP to 60HP
1929 first diesel engine
1930 new diesel from 25 to 90HP DB series
1940 DK series from 40 to 150HP
1957 DV series V4 V6 V8 V12 from 200HP to 900HP with variable pitch
1963 DP series 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 strait en V8 V12 natural en turbo 11450 DP engine sold for 5,4 million of HP report say all most all of those engine still working at this days
1970 DF series V4 V6 V12 for fast boat
1987 VTI series 300HP to 1400HP
1991 M26 series V6 V8 V12 from 225 to 900HP at 1800RPM 70% was sold to export market
2009 Weichal Power (chinese company) bought Baudouin

in US the only distributor in Moror Service Hugo Stamp Inc

Baudouin have solid reputation on working boat especially on professional fishing boat, was indestructible engine.

They made also lot of marine en ground generator and tank engine...

Those day we don't hear about Baudouin

Hugues

 

[RT Firefly]

Greetings,
Mr. 101. Let's hope the Chinese can maintain the quality of the Baudouin product.

 

[101TUG]

Greetings,
Mr. 101. Let's hope the Chinese can maintain the quality of the Baudouin product.

This is 2 type of chinese company
The one they don't care about quality and produce low cost product
And the one make investment and bought company to have the technology
I don't know if Baudouin still made in France but so sure the recheach and development office still in France.

 

[101TUG]

somebody know a other France marine engine builder ?

 

[Lou_tribal]

Greetings,
Mr. 101. Let's hope the Chinese can maintain the quality of the Baudouin product.

Dont worry 9 of 10 chinese engine are good and for the remaining one as it is really cheap it can be replaced without spending too much!
Of course it is just a joke

 

[BruceK]

somebody know a other France marine engine builder ?

Nanni was Renault manufactured, but check searching, I read Renault sold it a while back, but the engines continued being built in Bordeaux.
Pilou will know.
Peugeot and Citroen build diesels, surely they were marinized by someone.

 

[Lou_tribal]

Some volvo, man or iveco are made in france as these company bought french factories years ago. Not sure about the amrine engine % though

 

[101TUG]

Nanni was Renault manufactured, but check searching, I read Renault sold it a while back, but the engines continued being built in Bordeaux.
Pilou will know.
Peugeot and Citroen build diesels, surely they were marinized by someone.

Yes Renault Couach stop with marine in 1982 and Nanni Diesel toke the relay for Renault parts
Nanni still making marine engine they don't build block but marinised some engine, I know now they make marine engine on John deere bloc and apparently better marinisation from John deere him self :lol:

they have large game small to late power on Kubota Toyota John deere block

Peugeot Citroen don't have any marine engine...

 

[101TUG]

Some volvo, man or iveco are made in france as these company bought french factories years ago. Not sure about the amrine engine % though

MAN build in Germany, years ago Nanni was taking some MAN block, Nanni are French dealer from MAN
Iveco Italian
Volvo ... not sure they build some in France
Ford yes but not marine one

 

[Lou_tribal]

MAN build in Germany, years ago Nanni was taking some MAN block, Nanni are French dealer from MAN
Iveco Italian
Volvo ... not sure they build some in France
Ford yes but not marine one

What I meant is that these brand are making some of their engines in france after the acquisition of some french division that are building engines.
Volvo is a sweddish brand, but build some of his truck engines in France after the acquisition of renault truck division.
MAN is german brand but its diesel division build big engine in Saint Nazaire in France.
Iveco an italian brand building some of its diesel in France for their buses if I am right.

Anyway I do not want to hijack the thread as it is about beaudouin

 

[101TUG]

What I meant is that these brand are making some of their engines in france after the acquisition of some french division that are building engines.
Volvo is a sweddish brand, but build some of his truck engines in France after the acquisition of renault truck division.
MAN is german brand but its diesel division build big engine in Saint Nazaire in France.
Iveco an italian brand building some of its diesel in France for their buses if I am right.

Anyway I do not want to hijack the thread as it is about beaudouin

if we speak about marine engine

MAN is build in Germany but may be Pielstick in France
Vovo Iveco marine not in France

about Baudouin they bought it to have the technologie and patent but for me I need to double check they now build in Chinese but research and development still in France..

Hugues

 

[hmason]

The French built the early blocks for the CAT 3116. That fiasco destroyed the reputation of a really fine engine. I once owned a Peugeot but I'd rather forget about that mistake.

 

[fryedaze]

somebody know a other france marine engine builder ?

sacm

 

[Lou_tribal]

The French built the early blocks for the CAT 3116. That fiasco destroyed the reputation of a really fine engine. I once owned a Peugeot but I'd rather forget about that mistake.

I am not taking special proud of anything french made but at the same time a bit surprised of some comment. France is one of the country where diesel is the most common and are one of the best diesel engine maker. As an example, one diesel engine used by BMW has been designed with peugeot and won a distiction of best diesel engine on the market for 8 years in a row. It is used in peugeot, mini and bmw cars. They are made by société francaise de mecanique north of france.
Also mercedes is using renault diesel engine in some of their cars.
Not specifically speaking of marine engine but french savoir faire in diesel is usually well known and has a long history.

 

[Yahoo 1]

I once owned a Peugeot but I'd rather forget about that mistake.

So, you were the man I saw on television driving a Peugeot convertible car ? I can see your Grand Banks Europa in the top right of the pic # 1 !

 

[RT Firefly]

Greetings,
Peugeot=Push go. Never had one but that is what my FIL called them...
Mme. P. I doubt that is Mr. hm. THAT gentleman appears to be wearing shoes...

 

[sunchaser]

The French built the early blocks for the CAT 3116. That fiasco destroyed the reputation of a really fine engine. I once owned a Peugeot but I'd rather forget about that mistake.

Cat struggled mightily about 15 years ago to build smaller engines for all markets, whether the 3116, 3208 or C7. Those struggles led them to purchase a gold plate lower HP builder - Perkins. Tens of thousands of these engines are pumped out each year with the marinized versions labeled Sabre. Many Perkins Sabres have been painted yellow and sold as the Cat 3056.

The Chinese (a very big gas oriented power plant builder) purchase of Baudouin a few years ago gives the French company a significant marketing uptick into the modern era of natural gas powered systems. I've no idea if the NY ferries will be gas powered, but with BC ferries now going that way it portends the cleaner future of industrial Diesel engines. Think carbon credits and cleaner air - a really big push within China and Europe.

Gas powered diesels are not new. In fixed versions where a big tank or pipeline are available, soot issues are minimized and operating life extended. With ongoing low gas prices and no tie to OPEC, win win.

 

[Nomad Willy]

Thank you Sunchaser ... good post.

Peugeot was a fine car and I loved my Renault LeCar in the Late 70's or early 80's. And I always wanted a gas Peugeot.

But the mindset here has such a Cat and Cummins slant that few if any will pay any attention.
The pics above is the inspector of TV fame. His old Peugeot was a beater that was part of his immage. And at the time most Americans didn't think foreign countries could build cars. The Japanese pulled reality onto the stage about then.

But "better than Cummins" ... high power-to-weight, reliability, serviceability, and low emissions (from post #1) will fall on deaf ears here on TF.

However I hadn't heard of Baudouin.

 

[Yahoo 1]

Greetings,
Peugeot=Push go.

Monsieur RT F

But don't say that to Detroit & Dearborn city workers and state of Michigan workers ! One of the major US car manufacturers and suppliers to the industry are bating their eyelashes to seduce Peugeot to build (under joint venture, partial production license etc... yet nothing is decided) this Peugeot SUV which some can be seen on highways there with 'Manufacturer' Michigan licence plate.

 

[Yahoo 1]

Cat struggled mightily about 15 years ago to build smaller engines for all markets, whether the 3116, 3208 or C7. Those struggles led them to purchase a gold plate lower HP builder - Perkins. Tens of thousands of these engines are pumped out each year with the marinized versions labeled Sabre. Many Perkins Sabres have been painted yellow and sold as the Cat 3056.

The Chinese (a very big gas oriented power plant builder) purchase of Baudouin a few years ago gives the French company a significant marketing uptick into the modern era of natural gas powered systems. I've no idea if the NY ferries will be gas powered, but with BC ferries now going that way it portends the cleaner future of industrial Diesel engines. Think carbon credits and cleaner air - a really big push within China and Europe.

Gas powered diesels are not new. In fixed versions where a big tank or pipeline are available, soot issues are minimized and operating life extended. With ongoing low gas prices and no tie to OPEC, win win.

Very interesting statement & informations.

 

[Lou_tribal]

The pics above is the inspector of TV fame. His old Peugeot was a beater that was part of his immage. And at the time most Americans didn't think foreign countries could build cars. The Japanese pulled reality onto the stage about then.

I will add to this that I wish I owned his car today as its value is twice as high as my boat value

 

[RT Firefly]

Greetings,
Mr. NW. I have it on good authority that Renault named that particular model "Le Car" specifically so the owners would NOT drive their lawnmowers to work...

 

[Lou_tribal]

Greetings,
Mr. NW. I have it on good authority that Renault named that particular model "Le Car" specifically so the owners would NOT drive their lawnmowers to work...

In France the same model is named Renault 5 but I guess the marketing department found the Le Car name a best seller. Not sure though if the one that choose this name still work there
What is funny is that in French "Le Car" means "The bus" which is quite funny considering the size of the Le Car

 

[Jonza]

My 30´s woody had a Volvo Penta MD21A - a Peugeot block and, Yes, Inspector Columbo had a great taste in autos