Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 05-17-2013, 10:56 AM   #1
Senior Member
 
City: Great Lakes
Country: Canada
Vessel Name: NONE
Vessel Model: NONE
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 435
Anyone here with 3208 cat turbo 375hp diesels?

Hello all, I am trying to find air filters for my 3208's and it appears no one makes them anymore. Mine are the foam type used on the marine versions, it is not the same as what was used on the industrial versions but the housings look similar. I did find that Walker makes a paper disposable drop-in replacement but am not sure it it will actually fit my filter box and in any case I just can't bring myself to pay $150.00 per filter.

I thought about making my own foam ones but am afraid conventional foam may not stand up to the environment or have the correct filtration properties.

What are you other 3208 owners doing for air filters? Anyone have any ideas?
__________________
Advertisement

Capt Kangeroo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-17-2013, 12:47 PM   #2
Guru
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 741
Quote:
Originally Posted by Capt Kangeroo View Post
Hello all, I am trying to find air filters for my 3208's and it appears no one makes them anymore. Mine are the foam type used on the marine versions, it is not the same as what was used on the industrial versions but the housings look similar. I did find that Walker makes a paper disposable drop-in replacement but am not sure it it will actually fit my filter box and in any case I just can't bring myself to pay $150.00 per filter.

I thought about making my own foam ones but am afraid conventional foam may not stand up to the environment or have the correct filtration properties.

What are you other 3208 owners doing for air filters? Anyone have any ideas?
I don't have Cat 3208's, but did retrofit K&N filters to another brand engine on our boat. Removed the old assemblies and swapped in some generic units that fit perfectly in the space. Even managed to use the original support brackets. The K&N on-line catalogue gives exact dimensions of each filter....flange dimensions, length, diameter, taper, etc. Just a thought...
__________________

Underway is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-17-2013, 12:57 PM   #3
Veteran Member
 
Seaisleman's Avatar
 
City: Morehead City, NC
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Grande Jete`
Vessel Model: 1990 Grand Banks 46 Classic
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 36
We have the 3208's-375 hp. Bought new foam filters from local Cat dealer in Beaufort about a year ago. If you cannot find them, you can wash your old foam filters in mineral sprits, couple of times, and blow them dry with an air hose. Make sure they are dry before reinstalling.
Chuck
Seaisleman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-17-2013, 02:03 PM   #4
Senior Member
 
City: Great Lakes
Country: Canada
Vessel Name: NONE
Vessel Model: NONE
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 435
Thanks guys, mine are past the point of cleaning any more. I'll try to track down that Beaufort dealer, perhaps he has old stock. Will also have a look at K&N & try to match something by size. What a pain for a piece of foam, hard to believe Cat would quit making a filter for a popular engine, the motor is not that old!

Chuck, are your filter housings the ones with the big (female) threaded bolts on each corner of the cover?
Capt Kangeroo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-17-2013, 04:48 PM   #5
Veteran Member
 
Seaisleman's Avatar
 
City: Morehead City, NC
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Grande Jete`
Vessel Model: 1990 Grand Banks 46 Classic
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 36
Capt. Kangaroo,

Yes, our housings have four female bolts on the corners. Try Gregory Poole Marine Power @ 252-504-2640. They are the Cat dealers for much of NC. Lots of locations, so they can probably find them for you. Be sure to have the engine serial number when you call.
Good luck
Chuck
Seaisleman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-17-2013, 05:46 PM   #6
TF Site Team
 
Pau Hana's Avatar


 
City: Seattle, WA
Country: Good Ol' US of A!
Vessel Name: Pau Hana
Vessel Model: 1989 PT52 Overseas Yachtfisher
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 1,647
Just got this off of boatdiesel:

f you donīt like the Cat foam filters that come stock with your engine I would suggest a K&N universal clamp on filter.

Take some measurements of your filter area, go on line to the K&N web site and do your home work. Know what you want. Do NOT buy a filter with metal or wire support for the filter. Buy a filter that is all molded rubber with a 4" band clamp.

Remove the stock Cat filter assembly a clamp it to your turbo.

Buy the cleaning / oil kit and you will get years of service out of these filters.
__________________
Peter- Marine Insurance Guru & tuna fishing addict!

1989 52' PT Overseas yachtfisher
Pau Hana is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-17-2013, 11:40 PM   #7
Senior Member
 
City: Great Lakes
Country: Canada
Vessel Name: NONE
Vessel Model: NONE
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 435
Thanks guys, appreciate all the help. Will post back here for the benefit of others what I turn up on the above leads.
Capt Kangeroo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2013, 12:38 AM   #8
Member
 
City: Sidney Island BC
Country: Canada
Vessel Name: Not yet
Vessel Model: Still looking
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 23
Hello
We have been looking at a 52' with twin 3208 Cat 375HP. How are the engines and what can I expect for fuelburn at around 8-10 knts. Displacement is 49000#.
Thanks in advance
Guinness is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2013, 03:07 AM   #9
Guru
 
Alemao's Avatar
 
City: Fort Myers - FL
Country: Brazil
Vessel Name: ORIGINAL
Vessel Model: Hi Star 55
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 629
Quote:
Originally Posted by Guinness View Post
Hello We have been looking at a 52' with twin 3208 Cat 375HP. How are the engines and what can I expect for fuelburn at around 8-10 knts. Displacement is 49000#. Thanks in advance
We have a 55' with twin 3208 Cat 375HP., with displacement 44.000 cruising at around 8-10 knts and burning arround 5.5-6.5 g/hr
Alemao is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2013, 08:45 AM   #10
Senior Member
 
City: Great Lakes
Country: Canada
Vessel Name: NONE
Vessel Model: NONE
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 435
I can't comment on the fuel burn because two years on we are still burning the fuel that came with the boat. As to the question "how are the engines", I have not had any trouble yet but I think Cat must have got a bargain on steel when they designed these motors, they are ridiculously overbuilt for the application. I'm certain if you stripped the massive guards, brackets and housings off them you would end up lightening them by several hundred lbs each. Even the flat washers are a 1/4 in thick and I'm convinced you could safely block the boat using the air filter housings. Certainly no one can fault Cat for flimsy construction but I must be using 75hp of my 375 just to haul these things around.

Speaking of air filters I note I promised to get back to all with the filters I used. What I found was the originals "are" still available from Cat but the part number had been changed. Cost was about $100. each! When they get changed next time I'm following Peters advice above re: K&N filters.
Capt Kangeroo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2013, 10:59 AM   #11
Member
 
City: Sidney Island BC
Country: Canada
Vessel Name: Not yet
Vessel Model: Still looking
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 23
Thank you for the great advice. That makes us ONE STEP closer to a decision. Hope nobody mind that we are asking questions and using your guys experience to come to the best decision we can on buying our first and hopefully last trawler. Anybody have any experience with the construction of the Kha Shing. That is what this 51' is.
Guinness is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2013, 11:19 AM   #12
TF Site Team
 
Pau Hana's Avatar


 
City: Seattle, WA
Country: Good Ol' US of A!
Vessel Name: Pau Hana
Vessel Model: 1989 PT52 Overseas Yachtfisher
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 1,647
Quote:
Originally Posted by Guinness View Post
Thank you for the great advice. That makes us ONE STEP closer to a decision. Hope nobody mind that we are asking questions and using your guys experience to come to the best decision we can on buying our first and hopefully last trawler. Anybody have any experience with the construction of the Kha Shing. That is what this 51' is.
Yup- pretty bulletproof. Out PT52 is from the Kha Shing yards; we've had to deal with the usual problems of a 1989 boat:
  • Replaced the electronics
  • Replaced the original fridge
  • Repaired some leaks in the potable water system
  • Replaced the potable water pump

all normal for a 1989 boat. The previous owner maintained the vessel quite well, and we were the beneficiary of that care.

The boat handles well, tracks true underway, and is spacious and comfortable. Engine access is great, although I wish it had full standup access; that being said, each engine is easy to service.

We're full time liveaboards, and the PT52 is perfect for us.
__________________
Peter- Marine Insurance Guru & tuna fishing addict!

1989 52' PT Overseas yachtfisher
Pau Hana is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2013, 11:30 AM   #13
Member
 
City: Sidney Island BC
Country: Canada
Vessel Name: Not yet
Vessel Model: Still looking
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 23
Thank you Pau Hana. e are going back this morning for the second look.
Guinness is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2013, 12:04 PM   #14
TF Site Team
 
Pau Hana's Avatar


 
City: Seattle, WA
Country: Good Ol' US of A!
Vessel Name: Pau Hana
Vessel Model: 1989 PT52 Overseas Yachtfisher
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 1,647
Have a link for the boat? Like to take a look online.....
__________________
Peter- Marine Insurance Guru & tuna fishing addict!

1989 52' PT Overseas yachtfisher
Pau Hana is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2013, 12:28 PM   #15
Guru
 
Alemao's Avatar
 
City: Fort Myers - FL
Country: Brazil
Vessel Name: ORIGINAL
Vessel Model: Hi Star 55
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 629
My boat also an 1989 and I have an advise. Ask Mr. Catterpilar (Bruce Hicks) brucehicks@bellsouth.net , cel. (954)3208. He's the best in cat 3208 (look his cel number).
He came to my boat and gave us a class, showing all the problems that we could get and cleaned and fixed everything.
Alemao is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2013, 12:32 PM   #16
Guru
 
Alemao's Avatar
 
City: Fort Myers - FL
Country: Brazil
Vessel Name: ORIGINAL
Vessel Model: Hi Star 55
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 629
After a day sailing with 1500 RPM, Bruce's advice is "Full Power" for 30 seconds to 1 minute to clean the engines. Don't be "Full Power" but increase the RPM to 2.300/2.500.
Alemao is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2013, 08:08 PM   #17
Veteran Member
 
neworleansrich's Avatar
 
City: New Orleans
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Catalyst
Vessel Model: 50 ft Power Cat
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 77
I have 375hp 3208's and threw my air filters in the trash several years ago (rotten). Aside from a stray mosquito or two, why should I have air filters?

The engine room does not get much dust like an earth-mover,
neworleansrich is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2013, 09:21 PM   #18
Guru
 
psneeld's Avatar
 
City: Avalon, NJ
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Freedom
Vessel Model: Albin 40
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 15,861
Quote:
Originally Posted by neworleansrich View Post
I have 375hp 3208's and threw my air filters in the trash several years ago (rotten). Aside from a stray mosquito or two, why should I have air filters?

The engine room does not get much dust like an earth-mover,
psneeld is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2013, 09:51 PM   #19
Guru
 
Codger2's Avatar
 
City: San Diego
Country: US
Vessel Name: "Sandpiper"
Vessel Model: 2006 42' Ocean Alexander Sedan
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 5,420
Quote:
Originally Posted by psneeld View Post
x10
__________________
Codger2

My passion for improving my boat(s) exceeds my desire to constantly cruise them.
Codger2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2013, 10:15 PM   #20
TF Site Team
 
Pau Hana's Avatar


 
City: Seattle, WA
Country: Good Ol' US of A!
Vessel Name: Pau Hana
Vessel Model: 1989 PT52 Overseas Yachtfisher
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 1,647
Quote:
Originally Posted by neworleansrich View Post
I have 375hp 3208's and threw my air filters in the trash several years ago (rotten). Aside from a stray mosquito or two, why should I have air filters?

The engine room does not get much dust like an earth-mover,
No disrespect meant sir, but are you out of your mind????

All 4 stroke-engines, diesel or gas, need an air cleaner in place.
__________________

__________________
Peter- Marine Insurance Guru & tuna fishing addict!

1989 52' PT Overseas yachtfisher
Pau Hana is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off





All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:06 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2006 - 2012