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Old 06-07-2016, 08:15 PM   #1
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Antifreeze/coolant

Just curious, any preference on brand of antifreeze/coolant used on a Diesel engine? Have been recommended to use alliance but cannot find local distributor. Have seen some brands specifically for use in diesels. I have a Perkins t6.3544m engine. Ready for coolant change since it's been 3 years since last changed.
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I asked at Tacoma Diesel what coolant for my FL 120 and was told any of the green ones, the engine dos not care.
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Same from American Diesel for Lehman 120s, any of the green is fine.
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I asked at Tacoma Diesel what coolant for my FL 120 and was told any of the green ones, the engine dos not care.
Same for Perkins t6.3544m then too?
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Same for Perkins t6.3544m then too?
No, not necessarily...I only caught that after posting my reply too.

But it may go to reason that many older, lower powered diesels of certain design are a long way from modern diesels requiring high tech coolant.

Best to double check past the "old iron" theory.....
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No, not necessarily...I only caught that after posting my reply too.
Even though OP and post 2 are "veteran members" they have 87 posts between them. Wouldn't want one led by the other.
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What says your operator's manual?
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For my CATs I use CAT Extended Life Coolant.
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For my CATs I use CAT Extended Life Coolant.
OP is asking about his Perkins t6.3544m.
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OP is asking about his Perkins t6.3544m.
Hmm, The OP's first sentence reads "Just curious, any preference on brand of antifreeze/coolant used on a Diesel engine."

His question is pretty generic although he does eventually disclose his engine brand. My reading is that although he has Perkins, and wants to know what to use, he's also curious as to what others do as well.
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Maybe I should have been more specific... my operators manual is not specific about what to use but talk around my marina is to use coolant pre-charged with sca's to help prevent cavitation in the lining of the coolant system.
I'll check with TAD later today and see what their recommendations might be and get back to you all on this.
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Maybe I should have been more specific... my operators manual is not specific about what to use
I couldn't find it in the Operator's or Shop Manuals either. Odd.
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Maybe I should have been more specific... my operators manual is not specific about what to use but talk around my marina is to use coolant pre-charged with sca's to help prevent cavitation in the lining of the coolant system.
I'll check with TAD later today and see what their recommendations might be and get back to you all on this.
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Engines are not my strong point....stronger on operating them than servicing.

But for my own...I do my homework.

There are some engines that are susceptible to the cavitation issue you are hearing about. My truck engine is one of them. My boat engine is not.

Different designs, different compression, etc..etc.

The most knowledgeable people I could find said use great coolant for my truck...any coolant at all for the Fl 120.

So do a bit of homework from the manufacturers, their authorized dealers or representatives, and or the best of the best mechanics around.

Some dock talk and some here ion TF is urban legend as it takes a good idea and it just keeps going and going till the original premise is not even relevant anymore.

Great info come and goes out of here as long as you make sure it works for you.
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"There are some engines that are susceptible to the cavitation issue you are hearing about. My truck engine is one of them. My boat engine is not."

YES!

If you have a 30- year old tractor motor the chances are the cylinders are not steel cylinders , exposed to the coolant.

If its a fairly modern truck marinization , chances are you will need SCA in the coolant.

How the engine is built decides.

For the modern engine using a 2 part cleanser is a requirement before the coolant change , and using strips to be sure the SCA level is just right is required during operation..

For the old boat motors in non freezing use 35% antifreez is all thats required , the rest,, Distilled Water.
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Always thought it was red coolant for alloy blocks and alloy radiators and green for cast iron ?
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Can't really go by color....they are all over the map now.

Our really good tech guy RickB posted (and maybe others through the years) a color chart of different antifreeze and their uses/properties.

Maybe a search will help or someone might have saved it...but if you are not a diesel mechanic, generally all you need is what kind your engine likes and what the label says.
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I'd call TAD (Trans Atlantic Diesel). They seem to be the go to company for Perkins and are good over the phone.


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A diesel mechanic that I trust (did his apprenticeship at Perkins in the 60s) recommended Cat Extended Life coolant for my Perkins HT6-354 when we rebuilt it (at 20,000 hours). Since I sold that boat it has done the loop three times from Lake Huron and been as far south as Honduras, problem free.
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I just spoke with Janet at TAD and she checked with tech guy who recommended no specific brand by name but said the orange with aluminum inhibitors. Will check at local auto parts stores and see what I can come up with.


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