Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 05-04-2017, 09:01 PM   #1
Guru
 
Alaskan Sea-Duction's Avatar
 
City: Inside Passage Summer/Columbia River Winter
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Alaskan Sea-Duction
Vessel Model: 1988 M/Y Camargue YachtFisher
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 4,746
Question Adjusting Fuel Cutoff Solenoid-HELP

Hey TF. I spend the morning with a Cummins Technician on the phone and he had me go through some steps It would seem my fuel cutoff solenoid is bad. Shorted to ground.

If you have been following us, you know we had a rough crossing over the Columbia River Bar. This put water into one of my cylinders causing a hydraulic lock. I pulled all the injectors (3 in all) and turned over the engine and blew out all the water. Put everything back together and it ran for 4 hours, but I had fuel all over everything, to include the fuel cutoff solenoid. This caused it to go bad.

Does anyone know the proper procedure to adjust the rod on this solenoid?
__________________
Advertisement

Alaskan Sea-Duction is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-04-2017, 09:21 PM   #2
Guru
 
Lou_tribal's Avatar
 
City: Quebec
Country: Canada
Vessel Name: Bleuvet
Vessel Model: Custom Built
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 3,488
Did you check at the price f a replacement part? Diesel fluid solenoid should not be very expensive if m right, this may be easier.

Just a thought from a rookie

L.
__________________

Lou_tribal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-04-2017, 09:23 PM   #3
Guru
 
Ski in NC's Avatar
 
City: Wilmington, NC
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Louisa
Vessel Model: Custom Built 38
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 5,311
Which model engine?
Ski in NC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-04-2017, 09:36 PM   #4
Guru
 
Alaskan Sea-Duction's Avatar
 
City: Inside Passage Summer/Columbia River Winter
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Alaskan Sea-Duction
Vessel Model: 1988 M/Y Camargue YachtFisher
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 4,746
Onan


Model and Spec: 8.0 MDKD-3CR/26501B
Ser# I870947950


There is nothing in my manuals that show the adjustment procedures...
Alaskan Sea-Duction is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-04-2017, 09:45 PM   #5
Guru
 
rochepoint's Avatar
 
City: Sidney BC
Country: Canada
Vessel Name: RochePoint
Vessel Model: 1985 Cheer Men PT38 Sedan
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 1,464
I hope you checked the crankcase oil for signs of water from the hydrolock....
__________________
Cheers Mike Barge
RochePoint
Sidney, British Columbia
Yes, I have my "AnchorRight"
rochepoint is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-04-2017, 10:56 PM   #6
Guru
 
Crusty Chief's Avatar
 
City: Las Vegas/West Coast
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Pairadice
Vessel Model: Selene 47
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 1,520
Ok Tom, sounds like a new genny is on the wish list for next year, damn, and I thought a Auto Pilot would make the top of the list.

I am so glad we got "Otto" fixed, the admiral really talks sweet nothings to "Otto"
Crusty Chief is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-04-2017, 11:51 PM   #7
Guru
 
BruceK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 9,907
Adjust it so when it pulls across, it pulls across all the way. That way, once it starts, the "hold" is active, not the "pull across" bit. Unless it pulls right across it won`t start.
Where was all the fuel coming from?
The 2 problems I`ve had are:
1)the fuel solenoid. If it goes bad, replace it. I think the solenoid for MDKD and DKD is part 307-2546-00. (Cummins $300,Chinese version $60, Cummins one is made in China.)
2)The fuel filter not sealing in the housing it screws into, due to the housing being out of shape (?overtightening)= fuel everywhere. When I fitted the filter, and test ran it, dry as..next time, leaked copiously. Solution, new filter housing.
Some discussion about the solenoid is/was here: www.smokstak.com/forum/showthread.php?t=89089
__________________
BruceK
Island Gypsy 36 Europa "Doriana"
Sydney Australia
BruceK is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2017, 08:28 AM   #8
Guru
 
Ski in NC's Avatar
 
City: Wilmington, NC
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Louisa
Vessel Model: Custom Built 38
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 5,311
On the MDKD, you adjust the fuel solenoid linkage so when fully retracted (energized), there is still some slop in the linkage. Plunger needs to fully bottom. It is not that important that stop lever be held firm against its stop.
Ski in NC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2017, 11:10 AM   #9
Guru
 
Alaskan Sea-Duction's Avatar
 
City: Inside Passage Summer/Columbia River Winter
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Alaskan Sea-Duction
Vessel Model: 1988 M/Y Camargue YachtFisher
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 4,746
Quote:
Originally Posted by rochepoint View Post
I hope you checked the crankcase oil for signs of water from the hydrolock....
I did, no water
Alaskan Sea-Duction is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2017, 11:13 AM   #10
Guru
 
Alaskan Sea-Duction's Avatar
 
City: Inside Passage Summer/Columbia River Winter
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Alaskan Sea-Duction
Vessel Model: 1988 M/Y Camargue YachtFisher
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 4,746
Quote:
Originally Posted by BruceK View Post
Where was all the fuel coming from?
I was getting fuel out of the line feeding the injectors. Yes I did turn the fuel off.

Thanks
Alaskan Sea-Duction is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2017, 11:16 AM   #11
Guru
 
Alaskan Sea-Duction's Avatar
 
City: Inside Passage Summer/Columbia River Winter
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Alaskan Sea-Duction
Vessel Model: 1988 M/Y Camargue YachtFisher
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 4,746
Quote:
Originally Posted by Crusty Chief View Post
Ok Tom, sounds like a new genny is on the wish list for next year, damn, and I thought a Auto Pilot would make the top of the list.

I am so glad we got "Otto" fixed, the admiral really talks sweet nothings to "Otto"
Otto is still sleeping. Should get part this afternoon. Yep I paid the Cummins price.

There is a cheaper china part? Figures

Thanks NC
Alaskan Sea-Duction is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2017, 11:22 AM   #12
Guru
 
rochepoint's Avatar
 
City: Sidney BC
Country: Canada
Vessel Name: RochePoint
Vessel Model: 1985 Cheer Men PT38 Sedan
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 1,464
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alaskan Sea-Duction View Post
I did, no water
Perfect.......
__________________
Cheers Mike Barge
RochePoint
Sidney, British Columbia
Yes, I have my "AnchorRight"
rochepoint is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2017, 11:59 AM   #13
Guru
 
djmarchand's Avatar
 
City: Litchfield, Ct/Punta Gorda, Fl
Country: USA
Vessel Model: Atlas Pompano 23
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 4,778
I would change the oil, just in case. I did the same on my propulsion engine- hydrolocked it and squeezed the water past the rings with a bar over. After starting and running fine- no visible water but sodium in oil sample was 700 ppm. Should be less than 10.

David
djmarchand is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2017, 12:29 PM   #14
Guru
 
Lepke's Avatar
 
City: Between Oregon and Alaska
Country: US
Vessel Name: Charlie Harper
Vessel Model: Wheeler Shipyard 83'
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 1,558
I have an MDL3 using a Stanadyne DB2 injector pump, used in many diesels up to 8 cylinders. I've attached a couple of info sheets from Oregon Fuel Injection that may help. I also have a Stanadyne DB2 operation & instruction pdf that is over Trawlers size limit. Could be sent email.
Lepke is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2017, 01:04 PM   #15
Guru
 
Alaskan Sea-Duction's Avatar
 
City: Inside Passage Summer/Columbia River Winter
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Alaskan Sea-Duction
Vessel Model: 1988 M/Y Camargue YachtFisher
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 4,746
Quote:
Originally Posted by djmarchand View Post
I would change the oil, just in case. I did the same on my propulsion engine- hydrolocked it and squeezed the water past the rings with a bar over. After starting and running fine- no visible water but sodium in oil sample was 700 ppm. Should be less than 10.

David
Good point.
Alaskan Sea-Duction is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2017, 01:05 PM   #16
Guru
 
Alaskan Sea-Duction's Avatar
 
City: Inside Passage Summer/Columbia River Winter
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Alaskan Sea-Duction
Vessel Model: 1988 M/Y Camargue YachtFisher
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 4,746
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lepke View Post
I have an MDL3 using a Stanadyne DB2 injector pump, used in many diesels up to 8 cylinders. I've attached a couple of info sheets from Oregon Fuel Injection that may help. I also have a Stanadyne DB2 operation & instruction pdf that is over Trawlers size limit. Could be sent email.
Thank you
Alaskan Sea-Duction is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2017, 01:08 PM   #17
Senior Member
 
City: Wherever the boat is
Country: United States
Vessel Name: Silver Quarter
Vessel Model: Bayliner 3870
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 456
Just curious, not familiar with how rough seas get water into engine, guessing from burying the stern in following seas when engine not running?
kev_rm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2017, 01:13 PM   #18
Guru
 
Alaskan Sea-Duction's Avatar
 
City: Inside Passage Summer/Columbia River Winter
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Alaskan Sea-Duction
Vessel Model: 1988 M/Y Camargue YachtFisher
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 4,746
Does the water travel up the exhust or through the through hull pass the raw water pump?
Alaskan Sea-Duction is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2017, 01:22 PM   #19
Guru
 
City: Galveston, Texas
Country: U.S.A.
Vessel Model: 24" El Pescador
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 563
I think up the exhaust which is why you want a loop.
But...this is "I think"....far from fact.

Ken
__________________
Ken Diestler
Galveston, Tx
ktdtx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2017, 01:45 PM   #20
Guru
 
Alaskan Sea-Duction's Avatar
 
City: Inside Passage Summer/Columbia River Winter
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Alaskan Sea-Duction
Vessel Model: 1988 M/Y Camargue YachtFisher
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 4,746
I have a water muffler.
__________________

Alaskan Sea-Duction is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off





All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:19 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2006 - 2012
×