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Old 03-28-2011, 11:15 AM   #61
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I've always called boats like this a "penis extender."

Never thought about questioning my own masculinity, only other people's
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I'll bet that rig uses gasoline at a rate that is like water from garden hose.

Did you see the pics of the $40,000 outboard at the Miami show made from a Caddilac CTS-V motor? Somehing like 575 h.p.
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Old 03-28-2011, 12:49 PM   #62
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But Tom, *THat isn't even half what the penis boat has.
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Old 03-28-2011, 09:03 PM   #63
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1 engine or 2?

It is interesting to read all the different views of everybody... I always try to keep a open mind regarding one's selection in boats... some people will never venture further than 100 miles from home... others go thousands annually. As I have mentioned before we have... for a time moved away from "passage maker" trawler types and gone to a fast***** ( 25kt ) 40' cruiser. We will be back aboard a passage maker... either sail or power in a few years.. but for the time being we will go through fuel at a rate that makes my wallet pucker.******************************************* ************************************************** ********************************* As I post on this board.. and a board for the brand of cruiser we have I do find a vast disparity between the knowledge base of trawler types vs speed boat types.. for the majority of speed boat types seem to have most of their repair work done by others. I believe it comes from the need of " passage makers" to be self sufficient as they may be hundreds ( or thousands ) of miles from help.

My view is a "proper" passage maker would be single main screw, bow thruster,get home engine with folding prop, para vanes, and a huge watermaker and freezer. Most commercial fish boats that rely on a single engine in a life or death struggle make it on just one engine. I hate working in the engine room on one main engine... working on two stuffed in my present boat drives me nuts.

I have gone from a 60000lb 150hp boat to a 20000lb 800hp boat.. not a smart financial move with the current cost of fuel... but it sure is fun for awhile..

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Old 03-29-2011, 04:14 AM   #64
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RE: 1 engine or 2?

There is really no choice if you contemplate blue water .

A quality motor sailor a a true 90/90 will get you across vast distances with the best fuel burn and lowest hassles.

But if you stick in rivers and along shore the extra work, and loss of BLOAT might be restricting to your lifestyle..

Single or twin , who cares if Sea Tow is in the area.
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Old 03-29-2011, 08:50 AM   #65
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3*or 4 outboard engines in the fast offshore fishing boats is becoming very common. Read THT website for an eye opener. The many boat tests I have read show pretty good fuel economy as compared to a pair of bigger outboards. Not all are interested in go slow or leaky deck and window trawlers. Babe magnets can be fun, especially if you are under 50.

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Old 03-29-2011, 09:11 AM   #66
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RE: 1 engine or 2?

Tom,

We talked about multi-engine fuel economy and most everyone here except me thought the single engine boat was most fuel efficient. Should I take my 40hp OB off my skiff and put 4 9.8s on it???

"Babe magnets can be fun, especially if you are under 50." Under 75 ????
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Old 03-29-2011, 12:57 PM   #67
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RE: 1 engine or 2?

I won't talk to much about the reliability issue. We had an engine overheat in the GICW between Houma and New Orleans due to one engine sucking up debris. It was in a congested narrow area. Lots of commercial traffic. it could have been much worse if we didn't have another engine to get us out of the trouble area.

The other issue is manueverability. If you go with a single you may want to look for one with a bow thruster. I know people dock boats every day with a single and can be done. With twin engines we can stuff the boat anywhere we want even in high current and wind.

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Them's fightin' wurds there bub!

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Willy... I was only commenting that the pictured boat at WOT surely uses fuel at a STAGGERING rate for an outboard. And yes... swap to triple outboards on your dinghy and I'll buy the drinks!
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RE: 1 engine or 2?

Gonzo,

My dinghy is 10' and I use 2 to 8hp on it. My skiff is 16' and 450lbs. I considered 2 15 or 20hp engines but the thought of controling them put me off. Saw a skiff in Klawock w 2 20hp Honda's and thought about asking the guy how he mannaged them but I had already bought the 40 E-tech.
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3*or 4 outboard engines in the fast offshore fishing boats is becoming very common. Read THT website for an eye opener. The many boat tests I have read show pretty good fuel economy as compared to a pair of bigger outboards. Not all are interested in go slow or leaky deck and window trawlers. Babe magnets can be fun, especially if you are under 50.

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*1200 HP = Penis Extender, especially if you got only one head.* I stand by my original statement.

Yes, some people like to go fast, that is why I have a Grady White which goes 40MPH, and that is as fast as it should go.* If you need to go faster than that to get to fish then you are fishing the wrong area.* Spend your money by starting in the correct area instead of speeding to it from the wrong one.* Just my $.02.

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Old 03-30-2011, 05:29 AM   #71
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Why hasn't the OP posted since his original post? Have we been duped into an argument by someone here with a ghost account?

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RE: 1 engine or 2?

Excusing us slow trawler owners for a moment, boats like cars and other means of sport travel are great fun when powered up and going fast. The Romans raced chariots, Newfies have slip backing contests and the Americas Cup goes to trimarans. The Reno air races draw big crowds, a pure jet is faster than a turboprop*and Iditarod is alive and well. I have a friend who just bought a road (pedal) bike for over $3K - it is 3 lbs lighter than his old one!

Speed contests are in our genes*along with good graphics paint jobs (plumage in aviary sex attracting lingo) on the hull side.

Now, back to plotting my 32 mile course that I plan to do in 4 hours.
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Why hasn't the OP posted since his original post? Have we been duped into an argument by someone here with a ghost account?

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*It's*a pattern.* This anonymous poster has started five topics/threads but has only made six posts.

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*What would happen if you lost power out in the Gulfstream?
*Maybe you'll make landfall on Iceland.*

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I don't disagree with any of the earlier responses.*



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I too, am new to trawlers and I am currently doing research on my future "looper" boat. What I have learned is:

1 You WILL run aground. A full keel protecting that prop/shaft/rudder is invaluable.

2 Those great big fishing boats? Single engine.

3 Great percentage of diesel malfunction is fuel. Same fuel for both engines.

4 #1 should be etched in granite as the posting I read from another boater should be as well*- "If you can't fix stuff, you will be miserable owning a boat"
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Excusing us slow trawler owners for a moment, boats like cars and other means of sport travel are great fun when powered up and going fast. The Romans raced chariots, Newfies have slip backing contests and the Americas Cup goes to trimarans. The Reno air races draw big crowds, a pure jet is faster than a turboprop*and Iditarod is alive and well. I have a friend who just bought a road (pedal) bike for over $3K - it is 3 lbs lighter than his old one!

Speed contests are in our genes*along with good graphics paint jobs (plumage in aviary sex attracting lingo) on the hull side.

Now, back to plotting my 32 mile course that I plan to do in 4 hours.
*Reno Air Races start next week. We're headed there at 0800. Go fast, turn left.

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Let me be the first to give you a great big WELCOME to the Trawler Form party.

A single engine boat running sounds good.

A twin engine boat out of sync sounds terrible.

A twin engine boat in sync sounds WONDERFUL>

Today I'm not even going to make a small peep about which one's best.

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"You WILL run aground. A full keel protecting that prop/shaft/rudder is invaluable."

AND the water has trash so again the twin gets the most damage.

A single may damage the prop , but the twin may loose the strut and rudder too.

When I ran a yard , we LOVED twins!!!!
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I own a single, and love it.
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