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Old 06-24-2016, 05:12 PM   #21
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Auto or manual inflate?
Ours are all auto. I figure if someone goes overboard at night, there is too much chance of disorientation and panic, and if they have to think anout inflating the PFD it could be too late.
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Old 06-24-2016, 08:19 PM   #22
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There was a rumor here that Maritime in NSW did not regard an inflatable type as an approved lifejacket unless it was inflated. I pressed them on it, they said it was not correct.
Even so, not inflated it offers no protection, thus automatic inflation exists for good reason. But the inflation system, manual or automatic,is required to have annual servicing here. We`ve got them, but in a way I`m happier with the close fitting jacket types supplied in a range of sizes, which we also have on board.
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Old 06-24-2016, 08:32 PM   #23
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Yea don't rely on auto inflation. There's been many cases of them not working like they should. If you're doing coastal cruising, I assume your boat has a cabin and you sleep onboard, etc. Type 1 PFDs that are stowed in easily accessible places are all you need. A work vest or 2 would be all you need if you choose to wear one while working on deck or are docking. There's no need to wear one while you're in the cabin.
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Old 06-24-2016, 08:34 PM   #24
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Auto inflate with manual backup.

Psneed, thanks for the information.
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Old 06-24-2016, 08:42 PM   #25
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Yea don't rely on auto inflation. There's been many cases of them not working like they should.
My concern with auto inflate is that I have been known to take a dive, without forethought, in places where a PFD would not be needed, resulting in a unnecessary inflate. That means more cartridges and more dates to check. Also, a rarity I know, but capsize is not unheard of.

I think, all things considered, I would prefer to be in control of when she blows.
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That is why we have some vest type PDFs for kayaking.
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Auto inflation for old style vests was common when stored in humid environments.

The Sea Tow vest I had would self inflate every 18 months or so...the ones in my nice dry trawler havent self inflated once in 5 years.

The newer auto inflates work on air pressure, not bobbins that melt in water...they should be excruciatingly reliable.

Better to have self inflate and be able to deflate than unconcious and unable to inflate. Most usage of PFDS unless abandoning ship are inadvertent falls overboard...self inflate in that situation is invaluable.
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Old 06-25-2016, 07:15 AM   #28
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I couldn't find a reference that confirms this. Are you saying that for an inflatable to be considered as an approved PFD on the vessel that it actually has to be worn? I.e. As soon as you take it off it is no longer an approved PFD?
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Thats exactly what the label states...
RECREATIONAL INFLATABLE TYPE IV WITH TYPE III PERFORMANCE APPROVED ONLY WHEN WORN

That is for my West Marine Offshore model with manual inflation and harness D rings
My Admirals is the same WM w harness except hers is auto inflate
I called Mustang and inquired if there wete any models that are approved or count if not worn and their answer was NO
I also searched online and all I found stated the same requirement
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I use an auto inflate vest and sometimes realize I'm still wearing it when climbing into the truck after docking and tying up Badger. This is a good thing. Also, it easily fits over winter outerwear and is comfortable/cool in the summer.
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I use an auto inflate vest and sometimes realize I'm still wearing it when climbing into the truck after docking and tying up Badger. This is a good thing. Also, it easily fits over winter outerwear and is comfortable/cool in the summer.
Excellent comment and endorsement. Not only for practicality but, spoken into the right camera would fetch you about 5 grand in use fees.
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I'm a fan of the fanny pack style.

To me, they are the least obtrusive while on deck and as such you are more likely to wear one.
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Excellent comment and endorsement. Not only for practicality but spoken into the right camera would fetch you about 5 grand in use fees.
Wanna be my agent and squeeze an extra 5 grand for yourself?
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Wanna be my agent and squeeze an extra 5 grand for yourself?
No, because I need to be licensed and there is far too much PST, GST, BS paperwork.
But if we go in together and you toss me overboard, we are now into stunt territory and can write our own cheques.
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Thats exactly what the label states...
RECREATIONAL INFLATABLE TYPE IV WITH TYPE III PERFORMANCE APPROVED ONLY WHEN WORN

That is for my West Marine Offshore model with manual inflation and harness D rings
My Admirals is the same WM w harness except hers is auto inflate
I called Mustang and inquired if there wete any models that are approved or count if not worn and their answer was NO
I also searched online and all I found stated the same requirement
Thanks Don. I was at the boat yesterday and checked. We have two coastal and two offshore vests on the boat. We use the coastal more often as little need for the tether harness now that we aren't sailing.
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Old 06-25-2016, 12:02 PM   #35
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I'm a fan of the fanny pack style.

To me, they are the least obtrusive while on deck and as such you are more likely to wear one.
I have liked the idea of those. My thought is that it would provide some boyancy of course, but I don't think they would do much for you in cold water.

I could be wrong...
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