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Old 05-10-2017, 11:00 AM   #1
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Navy Guided-missile cruiser USS Lake Champlain gets hit by fishing boat

Ok, if you're humming along and see a vessel closing on you, what do you do?

Hail them on the radio, yell over the railing, blow the horns?

Slow down and let the idiots pass?

https://news.usni.org/2017/05/09/cruiser

Maybe the fishing vessel was pulling nets and constrained?
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Old 05-10-2017, 04:52 PM   #2
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Good thing it wasnt a north Korean fishing vessel!
We'd be involved in a nuclear war right now...
Gotta wonder why the skipper didn't take evasive or offensive action, as he obviously knew there was an imminent collision?
Has Trumps arrogance bled over into the Navy?
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Old 05-10-2017, 05:02 PM   #3
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After the USS Cole incident, I'm surprised the Navy ship didn't fire on the fishing vessel.
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After the USS Cole incident, I'm surprised the Navy ship didn't fire on the fishing vessel.
That's the first thing that came to my mind.
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Oh PLEASE!!! Do we really have to inject politics into EVERYTHING!?!
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I think you might be mistaking fishermen for boaters.

A "fishing vessel" is just a box that has fishermen and fish inside of it. It has nothing to do with boating or seamanship. It is essentially a large piece of flotsam that is capable of making erratic movements. It would probably be a good idea to put a NUC day flag (2 black balls) on every fishing vessel.
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Even worse in the China Sea, Yellow Sea and Sea of Japan. It's like Brownian motion.
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That's funny I've been out here in the South China Sea for the last month or so and have seen no problems, as a matter of fact haven't seen the Chinese once.
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Oh PLEASE!!! Do we really have to inject politics into EVERYTHING!?!
It wasn't a political statement....I wasn't praising or condemning any ideology or viewpoint. I just know there are rules about how close to to a Navy ship you can get, and there have been news reports recently of them firing on vessels that come too close. There was talk that their rules of engangement would change after the USS Cole and I wonder if they have or not if something like this happens.
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It wasn't a political statement....I wasn't praising or condemning any ideology or viewpoint. I just know there are rules about how close to to a Navy ship you can get, and there have been news reports recently of them firing on vessels that come too close. There was talk that their rules of engangement would change after the USS Cole and I wonder if they have or not if something like this happens.
I think they were reacting to the post just before yours.

My thoughts were the same as yours. I know I wouldn't expect to be able to aim my boat at a naval vessel, not respond to hails, and hit them without being at risk of being fired upon.
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That's funny I've been out here in the South China Sea for the last month or so and have seen no problems, as a matter of fact haven't seen the Chinese once.
They must congregate around haze grey ships, then. When I was there on a skimmer, it looked like a highway. When I was there on a sub, well, we didn't care.
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It wasn't a political statement...
Maybe I should have been more clear, but I was not referring to your comment. My apologies if you took offense.

On the other hand, if the person who tried to turn this thread into a political screed took offense... GOOD!

(Even though I am going to guess that my political thoughts are pretty well in line with theirs, this is NOT THE PLACE FOR IT!)
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So.. the cruiser cannot move out the fishing boat path??
I mean... it's a forbidden action avoid collision at sea even if is a military ship?
Seems to me collision can be avoided but nobody (the fishing captain boat or the cruiser want to avoid it)
..was a collision of egos...
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The implication is that the cruiser was screening the carrier. If that is true, the cruiser is going to be somewhat constrained in its ability to change course and the captain may NOT have wanted to allow the fishing vessel to close on the carrier.

The investigation report will be interesting.

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Greetings,
Mr. dc. That's exactly what I was thinking. Bumpy way to make a point but no lives were lost and other than the right of way issues, no potential international incident was generated.
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USNI has taken the link down.


Hmmmmmmm....
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thanks for the clarification....
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