Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 04-08-2019, 01:19 PM   #1
Newbie
 
City: PORTLAND
Country: United States
Vessel Name: Annikin
Vessel Model: Fisher/Fairways trawler, 38'
Join Date: Jul 2018
Posts: 1
Flares

OK, guys. What do we do with out-of-date flares? I have accumulated quite a few and don't want to throw in the trash but don't have any better ideas.
__________________
Advertisement

glpiercy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2019, 01:30 PM   #2
Senior Member
 
Todd R's Avatar
 
City: Wrightsville Beach
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Time & Tide
Vessel Model: 2005 34T Mainship
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 100
We called around and had a difficult time finding anyone that would take them. The fire department was not interested. The Coast Guard didn't want them. We called local Police and they took them to use at their firing range. Not sure what they had in mind, but they seemed happy to get them.
__________________

Todd R is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2019, 01:32 PM   #3
TF Site Team
 
Bacchus's Avatar
 
City: Seneca Lake NY
Country: US
Vessel Name: Bacchus
Vessel Model: MS 34 HT Trawler
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 2,721
Do you know any campers?
They (except orange smoke ones) make great fire starters.
__________________
Don
2008 MS 34 HT Trawler
"Bacchus"
Bacchus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2019, 01:48 PM   #4
Senior Member
 
firehoser75's Avatar
 
City: Nanaimo
Country: Canada
Vessel Name: Pilitak
Vessel Model: Nordic Tug 37
Join Date: Feb 2018
Posts: 216
Here in Nanaimo the local Power Squadron (U.S. now called America's Boating Club) offers a free disposal day every year.
When I used to moor in Point Roberts, Wash. they had an annual day where you could fire off the old ones for practise. This was all arranged with the proper authorities. I thought that was a great idea, as firing one for the first time when under the duress of an emergency may not be the best way to learn.
I suggest contacting the local Power Squadron, marinas, and/or yacht clubs. Worth a call.
__________________
Tom
Nanaimo, BC
firehoser75 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2019, 01:57 PM   #5
Guru
 
FoxtrotCharlie's Avatar
 
City: Mississippi
Country: USA
Vessel Name: ADAGIO
Vessel Model: CHB Present 42 Sundeck
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 544
From what I have heard (see post#4) they will still work for many years after the expiration date - we have one current set, and two expired sets aboard in hard plastic containers. Obviously hope to never need them, but the more the better
FoxtrotCharlie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2019, 02:40 PM   #6
Guru
 
Vashon_Trawler's Avatar
 
City: St. Petersburg, Florida
Country: USA
Vessel Name: M/V Sherpa
Vessel Model: 24' Vashon Diesel Cruiser
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 556
I store all my old flares in a seperate container (water tight orange tackle/ammo box). I have used flares many, many years past their expiration and they worked just fine. I inspect the brass on the 12 gauge flares for any signs of signficant corrosion. In an emergency, I plan to use the expired stuff first.
__________________
“Go small, go simple, go now”
― Larry Pardey, Cruising in Seraffyn
Vashon_Trawler is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2019, 04:49 PM   #7
GFC
Guru
 
GFC's Avatar
 
City: Tri Cities, WA
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Beachcomber
Vessel Model: Sea Ray 550 Sedan Bridge
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 3,533
I have put on Flare Demo Days at two yacht clubs I've belonged to and they went over well. There's a form from the USCG you should fill out to notify them of the date/time/location of the demo. Then notify the police, sheriff's depts. and fire depts. and ask that an ambulance be on standby in case something goes wrong.


At the last one the ambulance was there and a fire truck drove by and stopped for as few minutes to watch.


The better organized you are the more successful it will be. Encourage the public to come, get the TV stations to publicize it and invite them to come to video it for their news broadcasts.


At the last one we had about 50 people fire off about 250 old flares. They all went off as advertised except for the ones you hold aloft and pull a string to fire. Many of those were duds.


Have a pail of water to put the duds in.
__________________
Mike and Tina
Beachcomber 1995 Sea Ray 550 Sedan Bridge
GFC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2019, 06:46 AM   #8
TF Site Team
 
Bacchus's Avatar
 
City: Seneca Lake NY
Country: US
Vessel Name: Bacchus
Vessel Model: MS 34 HT Trawler
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 2,721
GFC
Safety / flare demo days are a great idea.
When I did one of these a few yrs ago we tied it in with a safety seminar and then practiced w flares and fire extinguishers. Local fire dept contributed old outdated fire extinguishers to practice with. We didn't try to extinguish flares but set a demo fire w weighted rag soaked in kero for the fire. Review and practice P-A-S-S. I even recommend to folks the nark the extinguishers ahead of time w a Sharpie PASS as a reminder... no time to be reading directions!
The other things most boaters have never attempted is to toss a life ring w line attached or a "throw bag". It is a challenge and practice helps.
All things that can be done ashore.

Everyone involved was pleased to have hands on experience with both.
__________________
Don
2008 MS 34 HT Trawler
"Bacchus"
Bacchus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2019, 08:27 AM   #9
Senior Member
 
City: Tampa, FL
Country: USA
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 423
Our local county landfill has a "hazardous waste" facility. They take them.
denverd0n is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2019, 11:29 AM   #10
Guru
 
Alaskan Sea-Duction's Avatar
 
City: Inside Passage Summer/Columbia River Winter
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Alaskan Sea-Duction
Vessel Model: 1988 M/Y Camargue YachtFisher
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 4,606
I am with GFC. I contact the USCG and schedule a date and time for the demo. Then our yacht club have an afternoon setting off flares. What we have found that the Admirals were the ones that needed the training with flares and the signal pistol. We found out many had never activated a flare. So good training.

If you do this make sure you contact the USCG.
Alaskan Sea-Duction is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2019, 11:58 AM   #11
FF
Guru
 
FF's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 19,348
Our technique is to anchor in sight of the USCG station ,

call them and TELL them you will be conducting crew training with flairs for 30 min..
FF is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2019, 02:20 PM   #12
Guru
 
HopCar's Avatar
 
City: Miami Florida
Vessel Name: Possum
Vessel Model: Ellis 28
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 4,295
My customers asked me about getting rid of old flares all the time. I decided to find out how to do it legally.

I called everyone I could think of. Coast Guard, CG Aux, Fire Dept. and probably a few others. Finally I called the State of Florida Fire Marshal. He told me there was a hazardous waste incinerator, about a six hour round trip from Miami, that would take them.

I just fire them into the water when no one is looking.

Anybody know what I can do with a thirty pound Civil War canon shell?
__________________
Parks Masterson
HopCar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2019, 03:54 PM   #13
Veteran Member
 
Pete Meisinger's Avatar
 
City: Marinette, WI
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Best Alternative
Vessel Model: 36 Albin Aft Cabin
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 68
When I was at "NestEgg" marina in Marinette they held a Spring launch party every Spring and featured an opportunity to practice with old flares. It was arranged with the Coast Guard and local law enforcement. It was great practice, but it got boring after a while so the left overs and "duds" were just tossed into a campfire, they burned but not dangerously.
Pete Meisinger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2019, 07:06 PM   #14
Dauntless Award
 
Wxx3's Avatar
 
City: New York, NY
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Dauntless
Vessel Model: Kadey Krogen 42 - 148
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 2,696
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vashon_Trawler View Post
I store all my old flares in a seperate container (water tight orange tackle/ammo box). I have used flares many, many years past their expiration and they worked just fine. I inspect the brass on the 12 gauge flares for any signs of signficant corrosion. In an emergency, I plan to use the expired stuff first.

I can't imagine getting rid of them because I keep picturing being deserted on some remote island and wishing I had all my expired flares back
__________________
Richard on Dauntless,
New York

a Kadey Krogen 42 currently: https://share.garmin.com/dauntless
Blog:
https://dauntlessatsea.com
Wxx3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2019, 07:28 PM   #15
Guru
 
Lou_tribal's Avatar
 
City: Quebec
Country: Canada
Vessel Name: Bleuvet
Vessel Model: Custom Built
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 3,414
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wxx3 View Post

I can't imagine getting rid of them because I keep picturing being deserted on some remote island and wishing I had all my expired flares back
I do the same however just for security sake be careful how these are stored. Never forget that these are kind of bullet and if stored in big quantities and one is fired it can result in a drama.

L
Lou_tribal is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2019, 09:46 PM   #16
Guru
 
Moonfish's Avatar


 
City: Port Townsend, WA
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Traveler
Vessel Model: Cheoy Lee 46 LRC
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 904
Since we have the SOS Distress Light we are compliant with USCG regs. So we have kept all our expired flares. Best of both worlds!
Moonfish is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2019, 11:05 PM   #17
Guru
 
BruceK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 9,678
Keep them. Flares will come back into fashion one day. Waistband may need increasing though.
__________________
BruceK
Island Gypsy 36 Europa "Doriana"
Sydney Australia
BruceK is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2019, 12:39 AM   #18
Guru
 
ssobol's Avatar
 
City: Leesburg, VA
Country: United States
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 655
USCG requires that if you have expired flares on board they must be clearly marked and stored separately from unexpired (i.e. good) ones.
ssobol is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2019, 12:50 PM   #19
GFC
Guru
 
GFC's Avatar
 
City: Tri Cities, WA
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Beachcomber
Vessel Model: Sea Ray 550 Sedan Bridge
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 3,533
Quote:
Originally Posted by ssobol View Post
USCG requires that if you have expired flares on board they must be clearly marked and stored separately from unexpired (i.e. good) ones.
I was not aware of that and don't recall ever seeing this in print. Could you find it and provide a link?
__________________
Mike and Tina
Beachcomber 1995 Sea Ray 550 Sedan Bridge
GFC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2019, 01:16 PM   #20
Guru
 
ssobol's Avatar
 
City: Leesburg, VA
Country: United States
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 655
Quote:
Originally Posted by GFC View Post
I was not aware of that and don't recall ever seeing this in print. Could you find it and provide a link?
I was told this by a CG AUX inspector during a safety inspection.
__________________

ssobol is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off





All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:22 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2006 - 2012