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06-15-2018, 09:36 AM
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Guru
City: San Francisco
Vessel Name: Speedy Charlotte
Vessel Model: Beneteau Swift Trawler 44
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 679
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Anyone have a Lifesling?
They are half price at West Marine today only ($99). Was thinking about picking one up.
Any thoughts? It's the Lifesling 2.
Thanks,
Mike
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06-15-2018, 09:40 AM
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Guru
City: Palm Coast
Vessel Name: Southerly
Vessel Model: 1986 Marine Trader 36' Sundeck
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 1,231
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I have one. It came with the boat. I don’t see a use for it, but I have one.
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06-15-2018, 09:45 AM
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Guru
City: Punta Gorda, FL
Vessel Name: Aweigh
Vessel Model: Nordic Tug 42
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 628
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I have one on the aft rail up on the dinghy deck. I think that if just my wife and I were cruising and she, bless her heart, fell off the boat while trying to get the dog to pee in the cockpit that I would be better off with a simple throw able ring with a line attached to it in the cockpit (where I would run first) if she yelled "I have fallen overboard and would you please go upstairs and throw me the Lifesling".
It is in a rather big box so I don't want to move it down to the cockpit rail.
Just my $.02.
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06-15-2018, 09:52 AM
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#4
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Guru
City: Jacksonville
Vessel Name: SONAS
Vessel Model: Grand Alaskan 53
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 7,235
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I have one and coincidentally I just bought a new bag for it and will be repacking it today. And after discussion last night we are also going to add a block and pulley to it.
I do see a use for it in that some of my guests are quite "hefty" and after bringing them to the gate or swim platform still means getting them up. However, the problem for my wife will be if I go overboard and she has to manhandle me.
Now if we/she has the time and the right seas to get the swim steps down then we probably wouldn't need it.
If it hadn't come with the boat, would I have bought one? Don't know. We do a ton of cruising just on our own, and often off shore, so probably yes for the price.
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06-15-2018, 10:05 AM
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Guru
City: Ft Pierce
Vessel Name: Sold
Vessel Model: Was an Albin/PSN 40
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 28,119
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best to use if you have some means of hoisting people aboard with it.
that said there are dozens of ways to skin that cat.
it was originally developed for recovering people when under sail.
with a powerboat, there are different techniques that can be better.
huge amounts of literature in "safety at sea" type pubs and articles.
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06-15-2018, 10:05 AM
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#6
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Guru
City: Gig Harbor
Vessel Name: Kinship
Vessel Model: North Pacific 43
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 9,046
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MichaelB1969
They are half price at West Marine today only ($99). Was thinking about picking one up.
Any thoughts? It's the Lifesling 2.
Thanks,
Mike
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I’ve got one on my current boat and have had one on the past two boats I’ve owned and it was on the boats that my father owned before that. I’ve never had to use it to retrieve a a MOB.
I’ve had it because it is an effective MOB retrieval system that is always ready to deploy. On my current boat, I ended up getting a hard shell case for it and it is mounted permanently on the aft bulkhead facing the swim step. I hope it ends up being wasted money and wasted effort.
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06-15-2018, 10:07 AM
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Senior Member
City: La Conner, WA
Vessel Name: Agnus Dei
Vessel Model: 36' Shin Shing
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 276
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We had one for the sailboat, brought it with us to the trawler. It really was made for sailboats that just can't instantly stop while under big sail. Don't have that issue with a power boat. I mounted it on the dinghy deck rail to appease the admiral.
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06-15-2018, 10:13 AM
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Grand Vizier
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 3,815
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They meet the USCG requirement for a throwable life ring, so yes, you need it.
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06-15-2018, 10:14 AM
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TF Site Team
City: Saltspring Island
Vessel Name: Retreat
Vessel Model: C&L 44
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 5,656
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Lifesling is a popular item here in BC. It will function effectively to do what it is designed to do, lift a person from the water, if paired with an adequate lifting mechanism and used as designed.
It does NOT satisfy the requirement to carry a Life Ring of an approved diameter, see Boating Safety Guide: http://www.tc.gc.ca/media/documents/...ty/TP-511e.pdf
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06-15-2018, 10:18 AM
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#10
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Guru
City: Gig Harbor
Vessel Name: Kinship
Vessel Model: North Pacific 43
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 9,046
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Quote:
Originally Posted by menzies
I have one and coincidentally I just bought a new bag for it and will be repacking it today. And after discussion last night we are also going to add a block and pulley to it.
I do see a use for it in that some of my guests are quite "hefty" and after bringing them to the gate or swim platform still means getting them up. However, the problem for my wife will be if I go overboard and she has to manhandle me.
Now if we/she has the time and the right seas to get the swim steps down then we probably wouldn't need it.
If it hadn't come with the boat, would I have bought one? Don't know. We do a ton of cruising just on our own, and often off shore, so probably yes for the price.
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Great point about about a block and tackle. The PO of my boat had the lifesling on the aft rail of the boat deck. He also had a block and tackle hanging on the aft rail as well. His thought was that his wife would need it to get him on board. The problem was that after 6 years of being exposed to the weather the double braid line got too stiff to be workable. I removed the tackle. Also it done come in happy when I needed to move a couple 8D batteries.
I have yet to come up with an alternative but I need to. If my wife goes overboard, I will need some system to get her on board. However, I can come up with something very quick as long as she is secured to the boat. She would have a more difficult time with me. So, I will likely refresh the line for the tackle and try to find a location that is always ready to use but will be protected from the weather.
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06-15-2018, 10:21 AM
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#11
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Guru
City: Jacksonville
Vessel Name: SONAS
Vessel Model: Grand Alaskan 53
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 7,235
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Quote:
Originally Posted by koliver
Lifesling is a popular item here in BC. It will function effectively to do what it is designed to do, lift a person from the water, if paired with an adequate lifting mechanism and used as designed.
It does NOT satisfy the requirement to carry a Life Ring of an approved diameter, see Boating Safety Guide: http://www.tc.gc.ca/media/documents/...ty/TP-511e.pdf
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Interesting. The PFD and Flare requirements for my size vessel are quite more stringent than in the US.
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06-15-2018, 10:27 AM
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Guru
City: Jacksonville
Vessel Name: SONAS
Vessel Model: Grand Alaskan 53
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 7,235
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All done.
BTW, that's a bowline with the end tucked under a bend!
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06-15-2018, 10:30 AM
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Grand Vizier
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 3,815
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Quote:
Originally Posted by koliver
Lifesling is a popular item here in BC. It will function effectively to do what it is designed to do, lift a person from the water, if paired with an adequate lifting mechanism and used as designed.
It does NOT satisfy the requirement to carry a Life Ring of an approved diameter, see Boating Safety Guide: http://www.tc.gc.ca/media/documents/...ty/TP-511e.pdf
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It did the last 5 times we were boarded by the Coasties. Good to know it's different in Canada.
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06-15-2018, 10:35 AM
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Guru
City: Palm Coast
Vessel Name: Southerly
Vessel Model: 1986 Marine Trader 36' Sundeck
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 1,231
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we have established several of us have it, but has anyone really used it?
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06-15-2018, 10:40 AM
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TF Site Team
City: Saltspring Island
Vessel Name: Retreat
Vessel Model: C&L 44
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 5,656
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While on the safety kick, I note that the low around the lunch hour today is a - tide -0.6ft at Fulford Harbour.
All of those hazards you rarely see will be exposed!
Be extra careful out there today!
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06-15-2018, 10:55 AM
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Guru
City: Gig Harbor
Vessel Name: Kinship
Vessel Model: North Pacific 43
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 9,046
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Quote:
Originally Posted by koliver
While on the safety kick, I note that the low around the lunch hour today is a - tide -0.6ft at Fulford Harbour.
All of those hazards you rarely see will be exposed!
Be extra careful out there today!
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I admit that I am always a bit confused by the Canadian chart datum. This is silly since I think it makes more sense than the US system. So if the datum is Low Low Water Large Tide, isn’t it really unusual to have a minus tide?
Here the datum is Mean Low Water, so minus tides aren’t as unusual. Today I’m going to try and stay off the bottom at a -4 tide.
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06-15-2018, 11:28 AM
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#17
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Guru
City: North Carolina for now
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 6,348
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They don't do much good, and indeed have the potential for real harm, unless you practice using them. Start with a bundle of fenders and practice bringing the thing around without running over the MOB. Have your throwable with a lanyard and a PFD on hand as well to get to the MOB... use the "kitchen sink" approach to getting flotation to them.
Learning how to make it work while in the midst of a MOB is not good.
On alternative for some power boaters is to use the dinghy davit to hoist. If the person is OK, deploy the swim ladder. A critical part of the exercise is understanding when the engines need to be put in neutral or shut down.
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06-15-2018, 11:41 AM
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#18
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Guru
City: Boston
Vessel Name: Adelante
Vessel Model: IG 30
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 1,608
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I have always had one mounted on the stern rail but getting a hypothermic person back to the boat is only part of the problem. You will need block and tackle with an attach point or a good winch to bring them back on board.
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06-15-2018, 11:44 AM
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#19
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Guru
City: Seattle
Vessel Name: AZZURRA
Vessel Model: Ocean Alexander 54
Join Date: Aug 2017
Posts: 4,281
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I have several throwables, a crane, a large swim platform and a ladder.
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06-15-2018, 11:45 AM
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#20
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Guru
City: Gig Harbor
Vessel Name: Kinship
Vessel Model: North Pacific 43
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 9,046
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Anyone have a Lifesling?
Quote:
Originally Posted by SoWhat
I have always had one mounted on the stern rail but getting a hypothermic person back to the boat is only part of the problem. You will need block and tackle with an attach point or a good winch to bring them back on board.
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^^ this.
This is where there is a difference between warm and cold water boating.
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