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Old 10-13-2018, 02:51 PM   #1
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Where to leave boat in BVI or USVI?

We are considering taking our new (to us) boat to the BVIs in December for the winter. We have been there before on a friends boat and know we want to spend our cruising time primarily in the BVI (as opposed to the USVI). We want to leave the boat there for approximately 3 months and fly back and forth so the boat will be without us for weeks at a time.

The question is, where to leave the boat? The boat is 63í with a 7í draft, so that eliminates some of the smaller marinas. Most are still recovering from storm damage so availability is an issue. Does anyone have suggestions or advice, ideally based on recent experience?

Not sure if it makes more sense to base at St Thomas for the easier air access but deal with apparently higher crime issues, or base in the BVI with fewer access choices but you are already in country when you get to the boat.

We need to find somewhere that we will be comfortable leaving the boat, ideally with someone trustworthy available to keep an eye on it in our absence. Reliable power is important also.

Who has already done this? Any suggestions?
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Old 10-13-2018, 03:38 PM   #2
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Nanny Cay Marina on Tortola is/was a large marina with haul out and yard services, but it is still recovering from the hurricanes and recent reviews in Active Captain are mixed.


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Have you looked into Scrub Island? Their marina is fully operational and it would appear to be a very safe place to leave your boat as far as security is concerned. I'm guessing it would be fairly easy to find a recommendation from someone there for someone to look after her. I have no experience leaving a boat there but had a charter boat staged for me there a few years ago and was most impressed with the facility and marina.

It's also easy to get to from the airport... the ferry dock is walking distance from the terminal on Beef Island (EIS) and Scrub Island Resort has a private launch to take you on the ten minute ride to the marina (cold bevs available while you wait). It's fairly easy to connect to EIS from San Juan.
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Thanks, Cruzer. I wasnít aware of Scrub Island but just looked it up and it does look very nice and might work.

The daily rate of $6/ft over the holidays is pretty agressive, but the monthly rate may be rational. Iíll look into it further. Would like more recommendations also.

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Nanny Cay Marina on Tortola is/was a large marina with haul out and yard services, but it is still recovering from the hurricanes and recent reviews in Active Captain are mixed.


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I saw those mixed reviews and am not sure what to make of it. I would love to hear more from anyone that has been there.
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The big advantage of leaving your boat in the USVI is ease of access without a ferry ride. The safest in a storm is Compass Point but deep draft causes a problem plus management there are idiots. Yacht Haven is the newest but kicks you out in a storm. Crown Bay is closest to the airport and busy. All have issues.
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Old 10-14-2018, 01:36 AM   #7
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Yacht Haven's sister marina, American Yacht Harbor, also in St. Thomas, might be an excellent choice. American caters more to boats in your size range while Yacht Haven targets Megayachts, up to 600+'.
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BVI would be my choice. Get an address, you'll find its great for 'offshore' banking.
USVI would leave a trail and easy access from you know who.
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BVI would be my choice. Get an address, you'll find its great for 'offshore' banking.
USVI would leave a trail and easy access from you know who.
He's looking for a place to store his boat, not a tax shelter.
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Doesnít 101Tug (Hughes) keep his big boat in the Caribbean somewhere? He might be a good person to ask.
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Doesnít 101Tug (Hughes) keep his big boat in the Caribbean somewhere? He might be a good person to ask.
St Marteen or St Barth if I am right.

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My apologies Shrew.
When I see the way the politicians here waste it I thought I'd keep the most it for myself
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Another factor to consider is that a US boat is a foreign vessel in BVI waters. Anytime the boat is in BVI for more than 30 days a temporary import permit must be obtained. Note if the boat is registered in the USVI the period is 120 days.

Another factor is that with flights to and from the BVIs you are flying internationally which means customs / passport control etc. In addition a return airline ticket is required for US residents. There may be an exemption to the return ticket requirement (and stay limitation) for boaters but I have several friends required to buy return tickets at the airport for flights to other English speaking Caribbean islands.

A further complication is if you are on Medicare your 60 day travel window starts when you arrive in the BVIs whereas the USVIs are part of the US for Medicare's travel rules.
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Where to leave boat in BVI or USVI?

Donít mean to hijack or cause thread drift, but did I see written that crime in the USVI is high? Like all over, or just certain parts like in any other city/town/country.
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Donít mean to hijack or cause thread drift, but did I see written that crime in the USVI is high? Like all over, or just certain parts like in any other city/town/country.
Factually, the level of violent crime is high in the USVI. Now the official reports that rank it as a country are a bit misleading as it is not a country. To put it in better perspective, the rate of murders was 52.64 per 100,000. Baltimore is 57.8, St. Louis is 59.8, New Orleans is 41.7, Detroit is 43.4. The majority of those murders is drug related.

I would still be comfortable visiting and spending time in much of the USVI. There are areas, however, I wouldn't dare walk through. In General, the countries and possessions in the Caribbean have high rates with 9 shown in the top 20 countries in the world. One misleading portion of these ratings is they are based on inhabitants/residents, while at a given time they all have many more people present.

Also, a lot of theft and petty crimes just to be watchful about. I wouldn't hesitate to spend time there, but I would treat security as a very important issue. I'd stay in well lit, popular areas, I'd secure my boat at a marina with good security. I'd talk to and listen to locals about where to go and when. And, I would buy or deal in drugs or guns or any illegal activity. Forget moral reasons or anything else, but as a practical reality when one does things outside the law, they have no protection from the law. The point is that I'm assuming the majority here are not involved in such activities so their likelihood of being murdered is lower.
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Good info. Thanks.
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Wouldn't buy or deal in illegal.....typing error. Thanks RTF.
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I knew what you meant.
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We left our sailboat in the BVI for 3 years. We spent 6 months of each year in the BVI and further south, but the BVI was our base. The boat was on the hard in Virgin Gorda during the summers, but the dock space at the time was in Sopers Hole, Tortola. We used B&G Yacht Management, owned by Todd Patterson (https://www.bgbvi.com/ ). The minor hassle of flying into St. Thomas (much cheaper than flying into the BVI) and taking a ferry to Tortola is well worth the much better cruising areas in the BVIs. St. John is closer to Tortola than it is to St. Thomas. B&G is now managed from Nanny Cay after the hurricanes last year. We brought our boat back in the spring of 2017, so missed the hurricanes.
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A few friends that had boats prior to hurricane. Stored and launched at Nanny Cay. Docking cost was high, they would only stay a day or two when launching to load and provision and then move on. They would often use Pen's Landing Marina in East end to leave their boats for a month or a few weeks when travelling home. They have also used docks Leverick Bay if leaving for a few weeks.
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