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03-24-2017, 08:59 PM
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Guru
City: Thibodaux, Louisiana
Vessel Name: Gumbo
Vessel Model: 2003 Monk 36
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 3,882
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A few times I have used a second anchor off the stern to keep the boat from sailing back and forth. I have a Fortress for that.
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03-24-2017, 09:27 PM
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Guru
City: Miami River
Vessel Name: Gotcha
Vessel Model: Grand Banks. Heritage. 54
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 2,988
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I have used a Bahamian moor a number of time but prefer not to. I use it in a very narrow channel where the current will reverse strongly and there is not enough room to swing on the rode of one anchor. I have also used it when I get to an anchorage where the first boat there have used it and I don't want to swing into them. It's not hard to put the two anchors out if you use the current.
I'm confident in my anchors with the primary being a Boss. It sets immediately when first set and when the current reverses it sets in a couple of feet.
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03-24-2017, 09:54 PM
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Senior Member
City: Gustavia
Vessel Name: Soler Fox
Vessel Model: Selene 62
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 339
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we have 2 anchors with 2 separate windlass
in 2 years we never put 2 anchors but last summer we get 50kt of wind in BVI (unexpected wind) but during gust I was thinking I'm bad I suppose to put my second anchor ...
but with 50kt of wind I don't want to send some body on bow to operate windlass...
At the end we don't drag ... but that to only time we suppose to do it.
Hugues
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03-24-2017, 09:58 PM
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Guru
City: Sydney
Vessel Name: Sojourn
Vessel Model: Integrity 386
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 13,329
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You only need to explore this complication if you lack a good main anchor. Like a Super Sarca.
Feeling mischievous today.
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BruceK
2005 Integrity 386 "Sojourn"
Sydney Australia
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03-25-2017, 12:41 AM
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Master and Commander
City: Vallejo CA
Vessel Name: Carquinez Coot
Vessel Model: penultimate Seahorse Marine Coot hull #6
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 12,559
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Haven't had the need to employ two anchors. In our protective waters, the most likely scenario would be anchors off bow and stern when swing is inadvisable.
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03-25-2017, 04:01 AM
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TF Site Team
City: Ex-Brisbane, (Australia), now Bribie Island, Qld
Vessel Name: Now boatless - sold 6/2018
Vessel Model: Had a Clipper (CHB) 34
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 10,101
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Seevee
Just curious, when do you put out two anchors? I seem to do it often, perhaps too much, and perhaps not enough advantage. Most of my anchoring is in fairly light winds, and often no other boats around.
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Seriously, wit the anchor I use, (Super Sarca), I have never, and would never, put out a second anchor. If conditions were so bad as to even make me consider it, I'd be outa there and seeking a more sheltered anchorage.
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03-25-2017, 05:42 AM
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Guru
City: Miami River
Vessel Name: Gotcha
Vessel Model: Grand Banks. Heritage. 54
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 2,988
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Pete
It is not as much as a better anchor but where you are anchoring. I had anchored in a channel about 8 feet deep that is only about 50 feet or less wide with very shallow water on the outside of the channel, if I use a proper ride of 60 plus feet I would swing on to the banks when the tide changes and the wind blows perpendicular to the channel. The only way to stay centered is a Bahamian moor.
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03-25-2017, 05:47 AM
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Guru
City: Ft Pierce
Vessel Name: Sold
Vessel Model: Was an Albin/PSN 40
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 28,148
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Yep, sometimes the need to limit swing is the deal, not holding power.
Not even the "sorta" anchors are that super...
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03-25-2017, 05:50 AM
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Guru
City: Miami River
Vessel Name: Gotcha
Vessel Model: Grand Banks. Heritage. 54
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 2,988
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Hi Scott
Up early this morning. Thanks for making my opinion more clear.
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03-25-2017, 06:03 AM
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Guru
City: Ft Pierce
Vessel Name: Sold
Vessel Model: Was an Albin/PSN 40
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 28,148
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Normal morning for us.
Last day in FL. Heading out of Jacksonville for Cumberland Island, Ga.
Many routines in boating are similar no matter where you boat, but every region has some peculiarities that may require developing special techniques.
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03-25-2017, 06:03 AM
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Guru
City: Ft Pierce
Vessel Name: Sold
Vessel Model: Was an Albin/PSN 40
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 28,148
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Normal morning for us.
Last day in FL. Heading out of Jacksonville for Cumberland Island, Ga.
Many routines in boating are similar no matter where you boat, but every region has some peculiarities that may require developing special techniques.
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03-25-2017, 06:33 AM
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Guru
City: Beaverton, Ontario
Vessel Name: Looking Glass
Vessel Model: Carver 370 Voyager
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 1,240
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Two anchors are routine in our area, bow and stern. Keeps the stern in about 5ft. of water on the sandy beach regardless of wind direction. I have never used 2 bow anchors although I do have 2 bow rollers. Likely never will, there is always and island to hide behind.
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03-25-2017, 10:22 AM
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Guru
City: Concrete Washington State
Vessel Name: Willy
Vessel Model: Willard Nomad 30'
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 18,743
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I tried to use a second anchor only once.
That was at the head of Kynoch Inlet in northern Canada. There the bottom drops off to depths not practable to anchor on. Planed to place a stern anchor as close to shore as possible and the main straight out from shore deep. Used a small danforth on the shallows near the beach but the weed was so dense setting was not to be had. The anchor slid along the weed like it was an oiled linoleum floor. Not even a hint of hookup. Anchored deep w a single anchor and used my anchor alarm.
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North Western Washington State USA
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03-25-2017, 01:07 PM
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Guru
City: Ft Pierce
Vessel Name: Sold
Vessel Model: Was an Albin/PSN 40
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 28,148
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As they say, 90 percent of anchoring is captain and technique.
Region determines peculiar requirements and practice makes perfect.
The tens of thousands that anchored before us and developed these regional preferred techniques weren't idiots...they may have been on to something even though we may have better primary anchors these days.
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07-30-2017, 01:09 PM
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Guru
City: Punta Gorda, fl
Vessel Name: Escapade
Vessel Model: Nordic Tug 37 2002
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 1,231
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When One Just Won't Do. ⚓️
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07-30-2017, 02:16 PM
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Guru
City: Alexandria, VA
Vessel Model: 2000 Wellcraft
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 1,467
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When I am expecting more than 100 knots of wind.
Or sometimes when I am leaving my boat for a few weeks (when I am willing to pay the price of untwisting two rodes for piece of mind).
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07-30-2017, 05:20 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
City: Chicago, IL
Vessel Name: Bay Pelican
Vessel Model: Krogen 42
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 2,993
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20 years of anchoring out and I have used two bow anchors once. The current in the St. Lawrence was 6 kts and our choice of anchorage was close to shore so I also wanted to limit swing. Used a classic Bahamian moor.
Stern anchor I have used several times to limit swing.
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07-31-2017, 07:34 PM
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TF Site Team
City: California Delta
Vessel Name: FlyWright
Vessel Model: 1977 Marshall Californian 34 LRC
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 13,728
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Stern anchor to limit swing, primarily. Oddly enough, I use one routinely in our Secret Cove which is the most protected anchorage anyone could ask for, but it's confined with multiple boats. The stern hook helps us hold position without swinging side to side.
We used 2 anchors, one on each boat, when Giggitoni and I anchored in tidal waters while rafted. During the night, we made a complete circle that led to a circus when it was time to pull anchors. We both vowed "never again"!
In hindsight, it would have been better to have dropped a stern anchor to prevent the swing or raft stbd to stbd and each use our main anchor to hold position and prevent the swing.
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07-31-2017, 08:16 PM
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Guru
City: Concrete Washington State
Vessel Name: Willy
Vessel Model: Willard Nomad 30'
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 18,743
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Using two anchors indicates your working anchor isn't good enough or big enough ..or both.
It could be an act of paranoia too.
And if you're hand deploying anchors using two means almost all the time a relatively small anchor will be all that's necessary. A plus.
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North Western Washington State USA
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07-31-2017, 08:39 PM
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Guru
City: Boston Area
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 2,610
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when two anchors are on fire ??? bah-dum, bump !
its a twist on the ol' "when do you put the dog out?" joke. ( when he's on fire ! )
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