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Old 01-03-2018, 08:49 PM   #1
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three toots to exit berth

When exiting my home berth, I'm going in reverse. I'm legally required to sound three short (one-second) sounds when doing so. Since my horn is very loud, I've rarely done so. Thankfully, my first son gave my a replica White Star Line, high-pitched whistle for Christmas. Believe I'll use it from now on when exiting the berth. Will still use a loud, prolonged horn signal when leaving the marina when low tides block vision over the breakwater.
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Old 01-03-2018, 11:02 PM   #2
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I fully understand the legality. It is the appearance that provokes a chuckle.
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Old 01-04-2018, 12:09 AM   #3
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I'm with Al. I've never heard anyone around here sounding signals prior to going into gear.


If someone did that I would expect to see them in their white slacks, white shirt, white buck shoes and blue blazer. Oh, and their captain's hat.
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Old 01-04-2018, 12:20 AM   #4
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When exiting my home berth, I'm going in reverse. I'm legally required to sound three short (one-second) sounds ..... Thankfully, my first son gave my a replica White Star Line, high-pitched whistle for Christmas. Believe I'll use it from now on when exiting the berth.

For some years in my childhood we lived right behind the destroyer base in San Diego - National City, actually - and one of those sounds in my inner being is of a DD going astern: three whoops on the steam siren followed by a BLAAT on the horn.

I like your solution; now to find the correct device. Got one of those wooden train-whistle toys; gonna try that first.

Thanks.
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Old 01-04-2018, 12:32 AM   #5
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Whenever we give the proper sound signals, people just wave to us.
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Old 01-04-2018, 04:31 AM   #6
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If anyone started using a loud horn when exiting their berth in our marina, I'm sure the horn would mysteriously go missing.
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Old 01-04-2018, 06:47 AM   #7
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I give a loud single blast when leaving our lock - just just to annoy the lock guy (our harbourmaster)! My horn is kinda loud.
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Old 01-04-2018, 07:57 AM   #8
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I believe the 3 short is only if warning another vessel that you are operating astern propulsion when vessels are in sight of one another. So if no one is coming, not required. If totally a blind spot, then I would guess appropriate.

A prolonged is the signal for leaving a dock or berth.

However, as a small boat..... I follow the lead of LE vessels in populated marinas where neighbors can be annoyed.

If I was an 80 footer or passenger vessel and it was tight, then my actions might change. I would definitely do security calksif I thought it was a big enough deal, and based on what most commercial traffic does, this seems to be the norm.

Yes, I can say I have heard plenty of ferries do whistles too......
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Old 01-04-2018, 08:25 AM   #9
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Three flashes on the steam siren and one long on the horn, I remember it well. To the crew of the destroyer it’s known as “ haze grey and underway “ !
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Nobody ever does this at my marina.
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Old 01-04-2018, 09:38 AM   #11
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Nobody ever does this at my marina.
Clearly the origin of the old saying 'they don't give a hoot!'
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Old 01-04-2018, 09:56 AM   #12
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It's funny how regulations like this are so sporadically followed, and often felt inappropriate. Who puts up a day shape when moored? Who uses sound signals when passing or overtaking? From what I've seen, professionally manned boats do these things more often than not, and non-professionals more often not. Imagine if nobody except truckers use turn signals, and if most drivers didn't even understand what they meant, and if people were afraid to use them because they might bother or offend someone? That's how we behave as boaters. We are such irrational creatures.
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When I read the "title" I jumped to "three farts" for leaving the bed!!
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Visibility is the criterion.
If you have it and there is nobody there who needs to know what you are doing, then no tooting required.
If you don't have it, or if there is a boat or boats who may be affected by your movement, give the signal.
In my home port, where most exiting boats are unseen, within their shelters, 3 toots are a regular and welcome noise. At all other YC marinas, where visibility is wide open, tooting simply doesn't happen.
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"Sounds" pretentious to me (pun intended.)
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Visibility is the criterion.
If you have it and there is nobody there who needs to know what you are doing, then no tooting required.
If you don't have it, or if there is a boat or boats who may be affected by your movement, give the signal.
In my home port, where most exiting boats are unseen, within their shelters, 3 toots are a regular and welcome noise. At all other YC marinas, where visibility is wide open, tooting simply doesn't happen.
Good point Keith,
See and avoid is expected by everybody.
However one can always walk to the end of the boat just before moving out and see if thereís anybody comming. Or move out two feet and look.
Tooting like ships and tugs is silly and indeed pretentious as ancora stated.
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It's funny how regulations like this are so sporadically followed, and often felt inappropriate. Who puts up a day shape when moored? Who uses sound signals when passing or overtaking? From what I've seen, professionally manned boats do these things more often than not, and non-professionals more often not. Imagine if nobody except truckers use turn signals, and if most drivers didn't even understand what they meant, and if people were afraid to use them because they might bother or offend someone? That's how we behave as boaters. We are such irrational creatures.
You mean like drivers in Florida?
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If someone did that I would expect to see them in their white slacks, white shirt, white buck shoes and blue blazer. Oh, and their captain's hat.


Whenever we give the proper sound signals, people just wave to us.



I give a loud single blast when leaving our lock - just just to annoy the lock guy (our harbourmaster)! My horn is kinda loud.



Clearly the origin of the old saying 'they don't give a hoot!'
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Old 01-04-2018, 01:41 PM   #19
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Our horn sounds like a 71 Chevy Impala. If we sounded leaving the berth someone might thing it's coming from the marina parking lot.

My wife said "gotta fix that" the very first time we sounded the horn in fog.
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Around here a loud long blast is liable to get you a wave, from one finger.
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