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Old 06-20-2016, 01:56 PM   #1
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Not your average marina contract

hmm... maybe I've signed many agreements with this in there, but I happened to notice it today as I'm signing an agreement for a slip next weekend in Manhattan.

Looking forward to seeing whats around us when we get there

I think we'll look like a tub toy at North Cove Marina
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Old 06-20-2016, 02:03 PM   #2
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Wonder if they include drones/quad copter for pictures?

Would think so....no different than a 10,000 pound Sikorski S76 lifting off next to you)....
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Old 06-20-2016, 04:47 PM   #3
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I've actually seen that one other time recently and was surprised that was really a problem. Now that I think, I've seen a boat at North Cove with a helicopter aboard, but never seen one land or take off.
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Old 06-20-2016, 06:06 PM   #4
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Reminds me of the story of the wealthy individual who bought property on Lake Winnipesaukee in NH, then found the local zoning wouldn't allow him to build a pad for his helicopter. So he bought a boat, retro-fitted it with a makeshift pad and kept it on the dock out behind the house.
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Old 06-20-2016, 06:23 PM   #5
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Actually the issue with real helicopters landing and taking off, is the flying debris damage. Boatpixs brings their helicopter to Ocean City every summer for the White Marlin tournament. One year they set it down in the marina's yard kicking up pebbles and debris which struck several boats. Good thing for them they had insurance. Repairs I'm told ran into 5 figures.

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Old 06-20-2016, 07:12 PM   #6
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Boatpixs set down in the marina's yard kicking up pebbles and debris which struck several boats. Repairs I'm told ran into 5 figures.
No wonder their pics are so expensive.
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Old 06-20-2016, 07:13 PM   #7
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I frequently fly people out to and back from yachts.
It has become very common place.
Did so 2 weeks ago.
I'm back to get them when they call me when ready to leave their yach in the next 10 to 15 days.
In a slow year I make only 12 to 20 yach landings.
More each year.....now 20 to 30 or more is just normal.
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hmm... maybe I've signed many agreements with this in there, but I happened to notice it today as I'm signing an agreement for a slip next weekend in Manhattan.
Sounds like an interesting trip. Send photos!

Thanks for the warning, Harry! I'll make it a point to avoid landing there.

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Old 06-20-2016, 09:01 PM   #9
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The issue is MANHATTAN - several yrs ago after a light plane / helicopter accident - that put both into the Hudson - the restricted flights around Manhattan significantly
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Old 06-20-2016, 09:24 PM   #10
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If you look in the Ocean Alexander section, you will see a picture of the boat I bought two months ago complete with held opted. The previous owners carried a four person helicopter on the back.

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Old 06-20-2016, 09:49 PM   #11
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The issue is MANHATTAN - several yrs ago after a light plane / helicopter accident - that put both into the Hudson - the restricted flights around Manhattan significantly
And don't overlook the specific location of North Cove.
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Old 06-21-2016, 01:06 AM   #12
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if you've not been to New York Harbor before, you will be astounded at the amount of helicopter traffic. The volume and frequency of takeoffs and landings is rather stunning.
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Old 06-29-2016, 04:01 PM   #13
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Yesterday, I noticed Attessa IV leave the Marina del Rey harbor just long enough to launch its helicopter. On a previous occassion a big boat was stopped in the main channel while its helicopter was starting up. A harbor patrol boat approached with its lights on, and though I am not sure what was said, the big boat exited the harbor before its helicopter took off. I suspect there is some kind of ordinance against helicopter take-offs / landings in the marina. It may have to do with the marina's close proximity to LAX, but going just outside the harbor doesn't add much distance.
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Took the dinghy out Fathers day to look at Attessa IV. What a gorgeous yacht! There was another yacht (comes and goes) in the A basin in MDR that also had a helicopter on deck, but never saw it launch. They cannot be worse than the low flying and very loud Sheriff's helicopters here.
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Old 06-29-2016, 06:05 PM   #15
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the difference is someone's convenience versus law enforcement?


taking a helo off a vessel is anything but safe to begin with...best done well away from the general public....
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Old 06-29-2016, 10:04 PM   #16
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Speak of the devil, Attessa IV just sailed past my house. Per my post above, last night at this time, it sailed out to launch its helicopter, then returned shortly thereafter sans helicopter. As shown, no helicopter is attached, so I am thinking it is going back to get its owner. Must be nice.
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I'm sure it is, the owner has two more yachts and a small air force to ferry him around. The Eurocopter aboard that yacht is one of two that take him to the 737.
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Old 06-30-2016, 12:23 AM   #18
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Nice boat I guess and sure they get a lot of enjoyment from it. I can't figure out the pleasure of cruising on a boat that size. It requires a huge crew. You can't get into most marinas without going to the tender. And being at the helm doesn't seem to me it would feel like you were "driving a boat". They're really like small cruise ships in a way and if you like cruise ships might appeal.

That brings up an interesting question to me. At what size does it stop feeling like boating?
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Old 06-30-2016, 12:43 AM   #19
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Nice boat I guess and sure they get a lot of enjoyment from it. I can't figure out the pleasure of cruising on a boat that size. It requires a huge crew. You can't get into most marinas without going to the tender. And being at the helm doesn't seem to me it would feel like you were "driving a boat". They're really like small cruise ships in a way and if you like cruise ships might appeal.

That brings up an interesting question to me. At what size does it stop feeling like boating?
At 10 years about 15'... at 25 years about 30'... 45 yrs 60'... 67 yrs 110'... 79.5 yrs 150'... at 89 yrs any size
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At what size does it stop feeling like boating?
Probably when you don't care about the costs associated with the endeavor.
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