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Old 01-21-2013, 02:47 PM   #1
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New slip - new challenges - gunwale guards?

We have moved out boat to a different slip in a more (to us) desirable marina in Alamitos bay - one of the public marinas of Long Beach.
The new slip is a little tighter fit which is ok, however on the port side there is a concrete pylon(?), its function is to keep the floating dock in place, in such manner the pylon is extended through the dock so that the dock can freely move up and down with the tide.
There is only apprx 10 inches of dock between the pylon and the inside of the slip.
OK so my challenge is that the top of my gunwale and also my stainless rails protrude out so that if i was inadvertently pushed against the pylon at a 30 degree angleoff port bow, it would scrape against my wooden foot rails and the stainless rails. (yes it happened before).
I cannot put rubber on the pylon, so I guess I would need to either get some gunwale fenders or extended rub rails.
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Greetings,
Mr. Per. Anything on this page help?
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Old 01-21-2013, 03:07 PM   #3
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Thanks RT, those are great at protecting the hull against the dock but my problem in the top of the gunwale and stainless rails.
If i was to put rollers big enough to protect the "overhanging/protruding" gunwale, i might not fit in the slip...
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Old 01-21-2013, 03:18 PM   #5
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Is backing in practical and would it make a difference?

Or asking for a different slip? The docks in our marina are not designed like yours but the port staff is pretty helpful in arranging slip swaps if a boat or boater has trouble with their assigned slip.
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In a somewhat similar situation, I found that inflatable buoys are useful. With a 28" round (in my case), placed well below the sheer line and against the dock, the hull gets sufficient standoff to protect the gunwales and rails from the pilings. I have to periodically adjust mine depending on tides, etc. With a captive dock, once you get it right, it should be hands off.
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Old 01-21-2013, 03:30 PM   #7
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Backing in could be an option and is absolutely do-able. We prefer the view behind us though
We dont really have an issue with the assigned slip, probably just the protruding rails on the bow "corners" on our boat.
Inflatable buoy might work, we only need in the side where the pylon is standing.
I will have to check it out, thank you.
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Per, I see the dock has to slide up and down on the pylon but is there possibly room to wrap that concrete pylon in something like white vinyl, UHMW, or teflon sheeting or possibly white conveyor belting, which will not leave marks or damage your railing or gunwales should you make contact while still allowing the dock to slide freely?? Just a thought.
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Old 01-21-2013, 05:28 PM   #9
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I have seen a piling wrapped in what appeared to be outdoor carpet. Could that work?
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Old 01-21-2013, 06:25 PM   #10
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Seems a LARGE ball type fender at dock level would help.
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Old 02-05-2013, 02:00 PM   #11
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now with photo

OK so here is a photo where you can see my gunnel, the stainless, the wooden gunwale rails and you can see the monster concrete pillar in the back ground...
What i discovered is that my gunnel guards do not protrude out far enough to effectively protect my rails... I think this is where my problem lies.
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I'm thinking like RT F, put a wheel on the corner to keep the boat off far enough that the rub rail, gunwale or railing can't touch. This is what I have.

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Old 02-05-2013, 02:13 PM   #13
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thanks LaBomba, I have those already but in the corners my bow really have curves so those wheels do not offer protection.
Is it a big job to install new rub-rails?
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thanks LaBomba, I have those already but in the corners my bow really have curves so those wheels do not offer protection.
Is it a big job to install new rub-rails?
I have never installed any myself but my first thought is that it would be a big job #1 and #2 there has to be a better solution. Do you have a bow thruster?
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Would the marina allow you to mount a stand to the dock that keeps the same relative position to the boat as the dock rises and falls? The stand can have a roller on it and if your boat presses against it will be backed up by the piling.
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no i dont have bow thruster
i guess it is really not that big an issue, i can just get some of those larger inflatable fenders and throw out on the port bow when coming in.
just thought it was kinda strange my rubrails dont really protrude out enough to protect my rails. I checked all the other boats on my dock and they all have heavier rubrails protruding out past rails.
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Would the marina allow you to mount a stand to the dock that keeps the same relative position to the boat as the dock rises and falls? The stand can have a roller on it and if your boat presses against it will be backed up by the piling.
problem is not once i am in the slip, problem is when coming in.
once i am in the regular fenders keeps the hull safe.
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no i dont have bow thruster
i guess it is really not that big an issue, i can just get some of those larger inflatable fenders and throw out on the port bow when coming in.
just thought it was kinda strange my rubrails dont really protrude out enough to protect my rails. I checked all the other boats on my dock and they all have heavier rubrails protruding out past rails.
Rather than changing out your rub rails could you possibly just extend them by adding an additional strip on top, something that won't be damaged by the concrete?
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Get the big ball fender and if you can, secure it to the dock, I'd guess there is a cleat back there. Helps fen d the boat off when you are coming and going, moreso than a fender swinging at the end of a line attached to the boat.
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My rubrails are well above the dock here. Use five fenders on each side to separate dock from hull.



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