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Old 12-18-2013, 07:39 PM   #41
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Now this is the best thread drift I've ever seen.
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Old 12-18-2013, 08:13 PM   #42
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Now this is the best thread drift I've ever seen.
Different, anyway. Sounds like Downton Abbey.
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Old 12-19-2013, 12:27 AM   #43
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Sheesh. What a pile of c r a p after posting a serious reply. Start at the beginning. Read your insurance policy, as they are all different. If your marina wants to be added as an additional insured, do it. If they care that much, you can trust they are insuring themselves properly. If you have hypothetical questions, take them to your insurance company, as ALL POLICIES ARE DIFFERENT.

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Old 12-19-2013, 02:59 AM   #44
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Sheesh. What a pile of c r a p

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Sorry.

I put it down to an over exposure of Monty Python as an impressionable teenager.
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[QUOTE=RT Firefly;199677]Greetings,
it has come to my attention that there is a possible connection to one Rush Limpbough (in the pay of Faux News-a purveyor of misinformation, innuendo and general falsehoodery) whereby the narrator may share a genetic connection

Who is this Rush Limpbough character, who might be a relation. Surely not his real name?
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Greetings,
Mr. Robster. The question was answered in the first 10 posts. Everything else was "what ifs" and "who said whats". Like the proverbial single/twin, galley up/down and anchor threads this one digressed into a somewhat greater foolishness than the others. Monty Python not withstanding, the creativity of Mr. G's carefully crafted response (except for the victim slip) was brilliant IMO. Apologies to you for MY contribution to the "crap". The "crap" should have been posted, more appropriately, in the "dissolving TP thread I suspect.
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Old 12-19-2013, 11:06 AM   #47
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Looks like Rush missed his calling. . . . . He should have been a marriage counselor.
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Old 12-19-2013, 12:20 PM   #48
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That is commoan practice in business. If we ant to do business with some compnay they require addtional insured. No cost to you. Mainas are a business as that is what is required. Not a big deal unless you cause a damge and/or liability to the marina. Just like banks they also want to be name as additonal insured.

You are making a big deal out of NOTHING.
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Old 12-19-2013, 12:41 PM   #49
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BoatUS Magazine: Liability, A Marina Hot Potato?

It seems like you should at least know what you're waiving before there is an actual loss. There might be some specific contractual language that may attempt to shift responsibility for a claim. That waiver of subrogation thing is right scary.
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Good point and not a bad idea!!

If your marina asks you to sign a new or revised agreement, at least forward it to you insurance company for their review.
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Old 12-19-2013, 07:22 PM   #51
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OK, Angy G. I have just retained ace defense attorney Bobby Lee Cook. We are ready for trial. Here's what the American Bar Association magazine has to say about him.

By the way he is the owner of a beautiful Huckins yacht.

Bobby Lee Cook

It will be a hell of a trial.
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Old 12-19-2013, 09:37 PM   #52
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BoatUS Magazine: Liability, A Marina Hot Potato?

It seems like you should at least know what you're waiving before there is an actual loss. There might be some specific contractual language that may attempt to shift responsibility for a claim. That waiver of subrogation thing is right scary.
I went back and looked at mine... Guess I'm screwed for now:

8. It is agreed that “NEW BERN GRAND MARINA” shall not be held liable in any manner for the safe keeping or condition of “LESSEE’S” boat, and will not be responsible or liable therefore as warehouseman, liveryman or bailey and it will not be responsible or liable for any damage to the boat or loss of the boat’s tackle, gear, equipment or property within the said boat while it is in this MARINA. Further, “LESSEE” shall be liable for any damages to “NEW BERN GRAND MARINAS’” docks, piers or other facilities caused by “LESSEE’S” lack of care or negligence.
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Old 12-19-2013, 09:59 PM   #53
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"Subrogation" (here at least) means the acquisition by your insurer of rights you have to recover from a third party, usually using your name, after satisfying your claim.
The clause in Tom.B`s Agreement with his Marina purports to remove his rights against the Marina, if it holds good there are no rights for the insurer to acquire.
Insurers won`t cover assumed contractual liability unless you were liable anyway. They could be seriously upset if you effectively waive their recovery rights.
I don`t know US law, so these comments are general, but it might be an idea to send your insurer a copy of the Marina Agreement "for their records". They probably won`t read it, and should not be able to complain of "non disclosure" of the Marina agreement.
There just seems to me to be something intrinsically wrong in someone (the Marina) with no interest in your boat going on the Policy. If you lodged a claim on the policy, could they withdraw it? How do you resolve disagreements between policy holders?
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OK, Angy G. I have just retained ace defense attorney Bobby Lee Cook. We are ready for trial. Here's what the American Bar Association magazine has to say about him.

By the way he is the owner of a beautiful Huckins yacht.

Bobby Lee Cook

It will be a hell of a trial.
You know Bobby Lee Cook? What model Huckens? If I ever need a Rhino such as him - He is the one!!
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You know Bobby Lee Cook? What model Huckens? If I ever need a Rhino such as him - He is the one!!
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Old 12-20-2013, 10:35 AM   #56
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My lawyer, Bobby Lee, is planning the classic Southern defense. "He needed killin', and my client was just the man for the job". In the South that works every time.
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Old 12-20-2013, 02:21 PM   #57
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I went back and looked at mine... Guess I'm screwed for now:

8. It is agreed that “NEW BERN GRAND MARINA” shall not be held liable in any manner for the safe keeping or condition of “LESSEE’S” boat, and will not be responsible or liable therefore as warehouseman, liveryman or bailey and it will not be responsible or liable for any damage to the boat or loss of the boat’s tackle, gear, equipment or property within the said boat while it is in this MARINA. Further, “LESSEE” shall be liable for any damages to “NEW BERN GRAND MARINAS’” docks, piers or other facilities caused by “LESSEE’S” lack of care or negligence.

I wonder if that would really hold up in court ALL the time.

If a marina is made aware of a potential problem with their personel, equipment or property and does nothing to fix it...I would find it unlikely that they weren't liable.

My old timer business law professor often said..."if the other guys lawyer doesn't explain it to you in great detail" and you can profess to have signed it without clear understanding of what it meant...then it might as well be in the toilet paper thread....
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