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Old 04-02-2015, 10:23 PM   #1
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Florida anchorage restrictions

If you live in Florida, please sign this petition regarding anchoring 200 yards from any water front residence in FL water ways.


Petition: Stop Florida's attempts to limit access to public waterways and anchorages
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Old 04-09-2015, 09:22 AM   #2
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Even if you do not live in Florida but cruise there or are planning to in the near future please consider donating to the SSCA. They are trying to stop the few in Florida that would restrict the rights of all boaters from Anchoring in the state.

A Go Fund Me campaign has been setup here. Any amount would help.

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Old 04-09-2015, 09:41 AM   #3
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If you live in Florida, please sign this petition regarding anchoring 200 yards from any water front residence in FL water ways.


Petition: Stop Florida's attempts to limit access to public waterways and anchorages
Just signed. A very easy process. Remember rights go away a little at a time.
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Old 04-09-2015, 10:01 AM   #4
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Old 04-09-2015, 10:06 AM   #5
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Not that I think it will have any real effect, but I signed as well.
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Old 04-09-2015, 10:32 AM   #6
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It's not just signing the petition. It's also donating that makes a difference. If we do knot put our money where are heart is then we have no one to blame but ourselves.

Northen Spy, we never know if anything ever has effect unless we we speak out and hold all politicians accountable to the many instead of the few. If you don't believe that just look around and you will see what I mean.

Again here is the link to help SSCA.org (Southern Seas Cruising Association) fight this legislation. I fear is if legislation passes then political mission creep will set in while most arn't looking!

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Old 04-09-2015, 12:13 PM   #7
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I rarely cruise that area right now, but you're right as part of the boating community we can all help. Donation made.
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Abandoned vessels are not a recent phenomena.


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Old 04-09-2015, 04:26 PM   #9
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So what is the point if documenting or registering boats? Is it not to define ownership? Can the law not go after the last known owner? Or is it "too hard"? Wouldn't it be up to the last owner to prove non-ownership? Sounds like a typical collect the money, but no government accountability when there is a need for action. Easier to do the knee jerk reaction of "can't manage it so just ban all" .
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My great great grandfather was captain of a "Cape Horner" that went to SF in the midst of the first great gold rush. His whole crew jumped ship to try their luck in the goldfields, so he did to. He made it home with just enough gold to make a small ornamental anchor (a bit bigger than watch fob size, but not by much). I remember the story and seeing the anchor as a youngster, but a crazy aunt made off with the anchor and lost it.
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Old 04-10-2015, 08:39 AM   #11
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Was down in south Florida (east side) a few weeks ago, rented a boat to cruise the canals and I was surprised at where all these boats were anchoring, if the canal had a slight open area it was chock full of sailboats holding up, I can kinda understand homeowners issue, what was once a nice view turned into a holiday parking lot. Just my 2 cents which I'm told is what its worth.
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Old 04-10-2015, 11:18 AM   #12
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The first time I rounded the bend into Richardson Bay in Sausalito CA, it looked like a shanty town of dilapidated boats and we had to pick our way through them to get to the fuel dock. Although I can sympathize with home owners, they do not own navigable waterways. I am not for the restrictions in Florida.
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Florida already has many laws on the books for abandoned boats and also many laws restricting blocking navigable water ways. The view issue (and I am a water front property owner) is like building a house close to the airport and then complaining about the noise.
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CJ That is a perfect example!
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Old 02-25-2016, 12:39 PM   #15
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Anchoring restrictions bill advances in Florida Senate | Trade Only Today
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Old 03-03-2016, 12:28 PM   #16
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Florida anchoring bill faces vote today

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Old 03-04-2016, 06:34 AM   #17
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"I was surprised at where all these boats were anchoring, if the canal had a slight open area it was chock full of sailboats holding up,"

For cruisers heading south once past Daytona there are few easy large anchorages, so the few spots that do work get really crowded.

From Maine south to Daytona an O'nite anchorage can usually be found quite easily, but once in man made dug channels it gets crowded in the few spots that work.

The "perfect FL cruiser" ,,,, a hovercraft with self jacking spuds for overnight in 8 inches of water.
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Old 03-04-2016, 07:55 AM   #18
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As a boat owner and FL cruiser I can see the boaters side but the homeowner has a say as well. Nobody wants to see a bunch of derelict boats in their back yard even if it's legal. FL has laws on the books to prevent this but they are not enforced. Probably no money in the kitty and the argument to fine the owner does not always work. Many derelict boats can't be identified, the VIN has been destroyed.

I have no idea what it costs to remove an anchored derelict boat and dispose of it. Probably not cheap. Our favorite anchorage is now full of derelict boats and we don't go there as much. Very sad.

But this law is not about derelict boats, but rather about restricting any boat from anchoring. Sunset Anchorage on Miami Beach is one area that's part of the bill that would restrict anchoring during night time. I've overnighted at this place and saw no derelict boats. However the homeowners backing this bill are using boats that are permanently anchored as their argument to restrict all anchoring.

FL needs to find someway to eliminate the derelict boat problem, it is only getting worse. Perhaps one way to control this problem is for the state to contact anyone who does not re-register their boat. In any case the boating community should have jumped on this problem years ago and we are starting to see the fall out from not doing so. And though derelict boats and boats anchored temporarily are very different issues, it's not to some landowners.
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Too little land, too many people.

Boaters especially transients from out of state are not taxpayers and have little say. FL landowners have voting and representation rights.

Whether boaters from out of state or derelicts from in state, FL water front property owners are sick and tired of the visual mess and disarray. Before officially retiring we spent time in FL trying to decide course. Visited with friends and relatives and decided that unless golf, drinking and eating were high on our list of must dos we wouldn't want to live there.

Sitting by the screen enclosed pool watching sailboats jostle for position is troubling enough for many residents but when they rowed to the private dock asking for directions to the grocery store I phone videos started showing up at town meetings depicting all boaters as a bunch of locusts.

No matter how this vote turns out restrictions are continually getting more onerous. Follow the money, follow the votes and follow the web cams. Too many people, too little land. And then the derelicts. Tough situation. ---
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I would support paying some additional tax to wreck out derelict boats. Should not be much if spread across both water front property owners and boat owners.

Make little difference though, the current regime has ignored the referendum that had 70% support by the voters to correct the Okeechobee water releases that are killing the Indian River Lagoon and ditto Fort Meyers area. Bottom line, they will do what THEY want to, public be damned. I suspect bribes play a big role in Talllahassee, as in Austin, DC and so forth.
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