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02-20-2015, 10:48 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 5,037
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The marina I am in charges by the slip width.
If you have a 80 footer that's 12 ft wide you get a real bargain.
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Ex boats: 1983 40 Albin trunk cabin, 1978 Mainship 34 Model 1
New Port Richey, Fl
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02-20-2015, 11:01 AM
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Guru
City: Little River SC
Vessel Name: JAZ
Vessel Model: Ta Chaio/CT35
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 716
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In my neck of the woods, slips are going for $300/month, regardless of size. Metered Electricity and free water.
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Twin Lehman Super 90's Cummins Onan 5kw
Lightkeepers Marina -Little River, SC
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02-20-2015, 11:18 AM
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Guru
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 4,021
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In our yacht club marina, we pay by the length of the slip. You are allowed 5' of overhang but you have to pay for every foot you overhang. When visiting a marina or getting a mooring on Catalina, we use our documentation which states we are 36', but we are really 40' O.A.
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02-20-2015, 02:42 PM
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Guru
City: Atlantic Highlands, NJ
Vessel Name: Moana Huaka'i
Vessel Model: Selene 53
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 816
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Every long term slip I've paid for has been the length of the slip, or LOA if the boat is longer.
Every transient marina has been length of the boat, and to my knowledge no one has double checked the length I've stated.
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02-20-2015, 04:42 PM
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Senior Member
City: Southern Baltic
Vessel Name: Sømarken
Vessel Model: AMS 40'
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 188
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We are paying for LOA. I never experienced that someone has measured our LOA, they relied on
best regards / med venlig hilsen
wadden
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Wadden
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02-20-2015, 04:46 PM
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Senior Member
City: Southern Baltic
Vessel Name: Sømarken
Vessel Model: AMS 40'
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 188
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We are paying for LOA. I never experienced that someone has measured our LOA, they relied on my information.
In Denmark you have to pay sometimes for width (e.g. in Copenhagen / Langelinie).
best regards / med venlig hilsen
wadden
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Wadden
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02-20-2015, 06:29 PM
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Guru
City: New Orleans
Vessel Name: Panache
Vessel Model: Viking 43 Double Cabin '76
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 1,253
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My "home" marina charges by the slip size, measured from the pier to the outer piling. They're fairly conscientious about overhang extending beyond that outer piling, but not rediculous - a foot or two, fine. More overhang can get into real issues for larger boats conducting docking maneuvers due to the marina layout.
I've never been questioned on my "43" in a transient slip, although it's actually more like a 48-49 when bow pulpit and swim platform/dinghy are included.
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02-21-2015, 09:52 AM
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Senior Member
City: Watch Hill RI
Vessel Name: Puffin
Vessel Model: Nordic Tug 32/34
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 172
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We hang on a mooring and anchor out most of the time away from home port, but when we occasionally spend time in a slip, I state the labelled model of our boat as "Nordic Tug 32". As with all NT's with integrated swim platforms, they run longer. Our NT32 runs 34'11" LOA, from anchor roller to the end of the integrated swim platform, and about 12" longer with a Trinka dinghy pulled up on Weaver swimboard hook davits. Our LWL is 34'. Occasionally, a marina has questioned the "32" designation and we get charged for 34'. Most marinas will ask our LOA, regardless of the stickers on the hull. I go with 34' and that's usually not been an issue. Up here in the Northeast, a lot of transient moorings have moved over to LOA measurements on overnight moorings. A couple of years ago, Nordic Tug up'd the designated lengths of all their models. Our boat is now the NT34.
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02-21-2015, 07:45 PM
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Guru
City: Windsor
Vessel Name: Keeper IV
Vessel Model: 44 Viking ACMY
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 1,350
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In out Yacht Club it's LOA or slip length. Which ever is greatest. Then last year the HM went around and measured every boat in the harbor (+beam). Everyone who was paying on LOA got revised billing in their next statement. He was really popular for a day or so.
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02-21-2015, 08:54 PM
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Veteran Member
City: Toronto
Vessel Name: Maurader
Vessel Model: Marine Trader Trawler
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 68
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Usually by what I tell them. My marina is so packed during the summer though, if you under estimate them a few feet they may be questioning why your 36 foot trawler can't get out of a 34 foot slip.
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02-22-2015, 09:52 AM
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Senior Member
City: Edmonds
Vessel Name: Miss Maui
Vessel Model: Bayliner 4788
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 237
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My marina charges by the slip size with a surcharge for any overhang. My Bayliner 4788 is 47 feet at the waterline for the hull, plus two feet or so for the swim platform, plus nearly four feet for the bowsprit. I would not have been allowed in my 50-foot slip!
I had the bowsprit removed, put in an anchor roller (I think that is what it's called) and now I am exactly fifty feet.
The employees of the marina are super-diligent about verifying the length of every boat, permanent and transient.
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02-22-2015, 11:50 AM
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Guru
City: Satsuma FL
Vessel Name: No Mo Trawla
Vessel Model: Hurricane SS188
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 2,300
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robster_in_edmonds
I had the bowsprit removed, put in an anchor roller (I think that is what it's called) and now I am exactly fifty feet.
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What are the pros and cons of having a bowsprit? Any reason not to remove it?
Sorry for the thread drift.
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02-22-2015, 02:17 PM
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Guru
City: SF Bay Area
Vessel Model: Tollycraft 34' Tri Cabin
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 12,569
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Donsan
What are the pros and cons of having a bowsprit? Any reason not to remove it?
Sorry for the thread drift.
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Days of yore bow sprits were needed on sailing ships. For much on commercial boat items they can be very handy. On the occasional pleasure boat it may be needed.
IMHO - Bowsprits are simply added length and something more to be a maneuvering problem in close quarters of boat handling.
That said... they can look good.
And, for ego reasons... "Just how long is your sprit!"
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02-22-2015, 03:05 PM
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Guru
City: Sioux Falls, South Dakota
Vessel Name: Xanadu
Vessel Model: Mainship 37 Motor Yacht
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 2,472
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Are we talking bow sprits, or bow pulpits? We took our bow pulpit off to get it re-glassed and the roller replaced - the boat looked stubby without it, looked just awful until that pulpit was replaced. We need ours for anchor deployment too, not just looks. I know some owners do it to save a few bucks or to meet slip eligibility, but amputating part of your boat (unless you have no choice) always seemed pretty severe to me.
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02-22-2015, 03:16 PM
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Guru
City: Fort Myers, FL... Summers in the Great Lakes
Vessel Name: Slow Hand
Vessel Model: Cherubini Independence 45
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,834
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Donsan
What are the pros and cons of having a bowsprit? Any reason not to remove it?
Sorry for the thread drift.
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Bowsprit moves the anchor(s) further away from the bow when hauling the anchor. This can be beneficial when retrieving in waves as it reduces the risk of the anchor striking the bow. If your bow has a sharp rake obviously the risk is less than if you have more of a dead rise bow. Also it is very common to have a Bowsprit if you have dual anchor roads, such as my boat.
Ted
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02-22-2015, 08:17 PM
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Senior Member
City: Edmonds
Vessel Name: Miss Maui
Vessel Model: Bayliner 4788
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 237
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On my 4788 it just added nearly four feet to the LOA. Good for bragging rights, but as others noted, not so good when you are paying for slip space. I have had no issues with our new setup, and we like the look of our boat better than before!
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02-22-2015, 08:46 PM
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Scraping Paint
City: -
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 13,745
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Bow sprits and bow pulpits are two entirely different things. Not very many recrational cruising boats have bow sprits. But a huge majority of recreational cruising boats, sportfishermen, etc. have bow pulpits.
Below is the bow of our boat. The extension is a pulpit, not a bowsprit.
So which one is being talked about in this thread in terms of removing it?
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