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Old 05-15-2014, 11:10 AM   #1
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Mid 30's 36 ft with straight 8

Ok this is my first post about Chris Crafts.A guy that delivers lumber here at work everyday has one of these that he wants to get "rid of ".I saw some pictures of it today and he is going to send some to me later .I know what you guys say if you aint got a picture it didn't happen . He says the engine and trany are rebuilt and the engine is a straight 8 .He also claims that this is one of three that were built for the goverment . It looks like a sedan to me . I don't need a project of this size but I told him I would try to help him move it . He has a custom built cradle for it with spreader bar so it can be loaded on truck . I plan on looking at it later this week . Anybody here might know what it is ?
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Old 05-15-2014, 01:27 PM   #2
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Probably a Chrysler or other automotive engine marinization. Not a lot were made, but some. Seen a couple. Usually flat head and direct cooled.
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Old 05-15-2014, 01:44 PM   #3
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Mr. PM. Could also be a Hercules, Gray Marine or a Buchanan although I don't know if any of these companies made 8's. Used to have a CC with 340 CID Hercules-straight 6.
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Buick, Pontiac and Packard made straight 8s in the 30s carrying on into the early 50s before V8s became so ubiquitous. A friend from high school had a Buick with one and it had a very distinctive sound. Hot rodding them was supported by the factory with special cams and dual carbs. I seem to recall they were OHV and not flat heads.

Easy to see how CC would have used them in the 30s. Not until the Olds Rocket 88 with its V8 around 1950 came along the in thing was a straight 8 or Offy 4 for the power starved.
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I agree w Ski in NC probably a Chrysler. Most of the straight 8's I saw in the 50s were Chrysler's. There were non-factory auto conversions by Bar Marine and others. I think Bar made a manifold for the Roadmaster Buick.

Just because of the odds it's probably a Chrysler.

Tom yes the Buicks were OHV. Don't recall any other OHV straight eights. Hudson made a good FH straight 8.
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Old 05-15-2014, 11:52 PM   #6
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Probably a Chrysler Royal Marine

When I was a boy my Sea Scout boat was powered by a Chrysler Royal Marine Straight Eight. They were very common and very smooth engines. They also made six cylinder versions often found in Steven's motor yachts. They featured up draft carburetors with bronze flame arrestors. These engines were built by Chrysler as marine engines. I don't remember a heat ex changer so it must have been raw water cooled. The boat sounds like it may be a Captains Gig.
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Very unlikely to be in a Chris Craft I know but didn't Duesenburg make a double overhead cam straight 8 back in the day?
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I'll try to post these pics .I haven't had time to go and look at this boat yet . His wife said it's got to go! This boat was owned by the TVA and used to monitor construction of dams and locks . It has beefed up rub rails that are not original . The straight 8 is a Chrysler . The boat is outside covered with tarp and should be easy to load . He has custom cradle that is also made to use to lift boat .It is a 1938 36 ft . Is it a sedan ? Only one pic posted and I have 3 more . How do you post more than 1 pic at a time ?
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Greetings,
Mr. PM. Hoo boy. Just seeing that picture gives me the heeby-jeebies. NICE boat but I think I've replaced my last plank in ANY wooden vessel.
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Tom yes the Buicks were OHV. Don't recall any other OHV straight eights. Hudson made a good FH straight 8.
Quite right, Eric. I think we may have discussed this before in autos. Buick came out with the OHV straight eight about 1931. Walter Marr, David Buick's chief engineer, was responsible for the design of the engine. As mentioned, it had a distinctive sound, and was very smooth. It was in production over 20 years. It was called the valve in head engine.
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Mr Pack Mule
I think your original post indicated that you wanted to help someone be rid of this boat. It will be tough to sell for real money unless you can find some kind of crazy Chris Craft enthusiast. Your best bet is to promote it around where the factory was in Algonac Michigan. There are a number of woodies still active around there.
There is also a Chris Craft museum which has volunteers that like this stuff. I wonder if they might want that model enough to offer a charitable donation receipt
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Greetings,
Mr. b. "There is also a Chris Craft museum..." Are you thinking of the Mariners Museum in Newport News, VA? http://www.marinersmuseum.org/library/chris-craft
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Yes Craig,
The Duesenburg was a straight 8 DOHC.
I was think'in of regular cars.
How many cyl was the Studebaker President? Eight I think.
CC had a 160hp six. Must have been a monster 6. The 62' CC motor yacht had three of them.
Most of the marine engines in the 50s were truly marine engines. Didn't come from a base car truck or tractor engine. They had the flywheel on the front of the engine. OHV marine engines were rare as they were too tall. Many of those marine engines had a crankcase that extended aft to incorporate the reverse gears and/or reduction gears into the same space as the crankshaft. The oil pan was frequently cast iron. The distributors and carburetors were on the side of the engine to minimize the engine height. And on these engines I,m sure you could probably trust the dipstick. I'll bet the dipstick was in the center of the engine so it would read the same at different propeller shaft angles.
But real marine engines for yachts are gone. Unless OB powered.
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Would the engine in this boat have Babbitt bearings ?
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not newport

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Algonac Clay Historical Society - Maritime Museum

It is the brown building in the lower right pictures and they are still developing so I thought it might work
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Greetings,
Mr. b. Thank you. I did not know that. Looks to be along the same lines as the MM in VA. Could be limited in space for a 36' donation but....
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Is this a sedan ?
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