Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 07-11-2015, 07:29 PM   #1
City: Springboro, OH
Country: USA
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 1
New user with an important question.

A missionary friend of mine in Belem, Brazil at the mouth of the Amazon needs a boat to travel up and down the Amazon. Great news, they were donated a 1982 Mainship 34 trawler! Bad news, it's in northern Ohio, USA. Question 1, time is no concern, but how long would it take an experienced captain to travel the eastern islands of the Caribbean down to T&T from Miami or Ft. Lauderdale? Question 2, could this boat even make that trip? Any info would be greatly appreciated.

rgiv is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2015, 07:30 PM   #2
RT Firefly's Avatar
City: Slicker?
Country: Bumpkin?
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 11,090
Welcome aboard. Put it on a freighter and ship it.

RT Firefly is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2015, 07:40 PM   #3
TF Site Team
dimer2's Avatar
City: Houston
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Baobab
Vessel Model: Bayliner 4788
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 2,453
People cross oceans in canoes but I would not recommend going to Belem in a 34 ft MS. It will be a great boat from Belem up the Amazon but as RTF suggest, ship it there. Probably cheaper than paying a crew who would spend an awful lot of time waiting on weather. IMO
I'd like to live like a poor man....only with lots of money
dimer2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2015, 07:42 PM   #4
HopCar's Avatar

City: Miami Florida
Vessel Name: Possum
Vessel Model: Ellis 28
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 3,946
That's quite a trip. They may be better off selling the boat and using the money to buy a local boat.
Parks Masterson
HopCar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2015, 08:13 PM   #5
Senior Member
Blissboat's Avatar
City: Jacksonville Beach, FL
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Shallow Minded
Vessel Model: Shoal Cat
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 426
People have made saltier voyages in lesser boats, but those tend to be exceptional cases. The MS 34 wasn't built for trip such as you propose. Since it is lying in northern Ohio, presumably on Lake Erie, it is probably not equipped nor has it likely been maintained with an eye to going offshore. Any prudent seaman planning this passage, even in a robust vessel, would invest serious time and money getting it ready. The donor of the vessel probably has his/her heart in the right place, but it sounds like the offer was "here it is, now come and get it."

I second RTF, dimer2, and HopCar. If the mission in Belem is determined to have this thirty-three y.o. Mainship, have someone deliver it to an east coast U.S. port on its own bottom, then deck ship it via slow cargo - probably in incremental legs, like Jacksonville to Puerto Rico, etc. But better yet, sell it and use the proceeds to acquire a local riverboat.
Blissboat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2015, 08:39 PM   #6
Master and Commander
markpierce's Avatar
City: Vallejo CA
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Carquinez Coot
Vessel Model: penultimate Seahorse Marine Coot hull #6
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 10,930
I agree. Ship it. That's what I did as the Coot isn't capable of trans-Pacific transits.
Kar-KEEN-ez Koot
markpierce is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2015, 09:03 PM   #7
TF Site Team
Larry M's Avatar
City: JAX, FL
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Hobo
Vessel Model: Krogen 42-120
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 6,684
Having done the trip from Brazil to the US, with the most part in favorable conditions (another boat) and also having owned a 1981 34" Mainship (I need to buy a lottery ticket).


Take a look at this thread and I don't mean to be a spoil sport.

6000miles to Rio in 2 months
Larry M is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2015, 12:23 AM   #8
Codger2's Avatar
City: San Diego
Country: US
Vessel Name: "Sandpiper"
Vessel Model: 2006 42' Ocean Alexander Sedan
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 5,513
Originally Posted by HopCar View Post
That's quite a trip. They may be better off selling the boat and using the money to buy a local boat.
My thoughts exactly!

My passion for improving my boat(s) exceeds my desire to constantly cruise them.
Codger2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2015, 04:35 AM   #9
siestakey's Avatar
City: Sarasota,FL/Thomasville,GA
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Steppin Stone IV
Vessel Model: Marine Trader Kelly Trawler 46
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 1,800
Send a message via Skype™ to siestakey
"Portuguese" member in this forum is form brazil and may also have good input
siestakey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2015, 11:13 AM   #10
Portuguese's Avatar
City: Salvador - BA
Country: Brazil
Vessel Name: Rainha Jannota
Vessel Model: Curruira 46
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 667
Send a message via MSN to Portuguese
Welcome RGIV

Used motorboats are not allowed to be imported in Brazil. They can come on their own hull for a period of time that I would say cannot exceed 6 months, (I guess)

Of course that there's no rule without exception and I really recommend your friend to touch base with the nearest Brazilian embassy/consulate for accurate information.

Yet, I would say that a boat like the Mainship, it is far from being appropriate for the task. The local wooden boats are much better fit for purpose and with local engines they last forever. The Amazon river is populated with boatyards in their river banks to fix these boats with minimum wages. The Mainship? Will have no experts nor the engines will have spares. By the way, you cannot neither import engine spares

Knowing all this, what would I do? I would sell the Trader for the best offer in USA and I would bring the money to Brazil and would buy a local boat to go up and down the river and into de forest.

This is my 2Cents


Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	amazonas_06.jpg
Views:	86
Size:	155.7 KB
ID:	42004   Click image for larger version

Name:	pic%202.jpg
Views:	136
Size:	63.3 KB
ID:	42006  
Attached Images
Now retired and cruising in calm waters
Portuguese is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2015, 06:36 PM   #11
Steve's Avatar
City: Thibodaux, Louisiana
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Gumbo
Vessel Model: 2003 Monk 36
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 3,777
Don't think twice, do as Portuguese recomended. Pretty much every part on the boat will be an "oddball" item down there.
Steve W.
Steve is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2015, 08:25 PM   #12
cappy208's Avatar
City: Cape Cod
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Slip Aweigh
Vessel Model: Prairie 29
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,199
On this same topic, I am still looking for my dream job operating this fine vessel:Click image for larger version

Name:	tug home.jpg
Views:	104
Size:	35.9 KB
ID:	42016

It seems a different land in Manaus. And a different job.

On your wish to proselytize, Good Luck.

Regarding the trip. Mucho Espensivo.

There is a reason someone 'donated' this boat. It is in tough shape. At this stage of it's life it is more suited to being a 'grandkids diving platform' than an ocean voyager. (not that they ever were suitable for ocean voyaging!).

Follow "Portuguese" advice. Sell it for whatever you can get. Use the money to buy something where you are looking to minister.
cappy208 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2015, 08:30 PM   #13
psneeld's Avatar
City: Avalon, NJ
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Freedom
Vessel Model: Albin 40
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 17,865
May be able to truck it cheaper...explore all options...on it's own bottom all the way there will be long and expensive.

psneeld is online now   Reply With Quote

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:20 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2006 - 2012