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Old 12-24-2014, 02:39 PM   #1
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My name's not Mat

My name's not Mat, but I hope I'll be welcome anyway!

I've already posted in the Liveaboard forum so I thought I'd better introduce myself properly. I've searched this forum for many months and found many great posts that have already helped me along my journey.

I currently own a Catalina 36 and have been sailing for 14 years. In the fall my younger daughter will be going to college and I plan to become a liveaboard. I am looking for a larger trawler to live on and take out in the SF Bay and up and down the Pacific Coast. I will sell my Catalina in the spring.

The boats I have my eye on are: Defever 49 Pilothouse, Selene 47, Nordhavn 46, Hatteras 48 LRC. Ideally I'm looking for a full displacement vessel or maybe semi displacement in some cases. I'm ok with single or twin engines - but want to get decent fuel economy at hull speeds (in the 1.5-2 nmpg range would be good). I've considered the Grand Banks 46 though I'm not sure the layout works as well for me. I'm open to suggestions!

Happy Holidays to all of you!

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Old 12-24-2014, 02:53 PM   #2
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Welcome! A fairly broad price range there. For the dollar, assuming good condition, and comparing liveable space to size, the Hatt 48 and the Defever are hard boats to beat. I find the Nordy's a bit chopped up inside and quite simply, the Hatt and the Defever are better boats than the Selene. For me, might be a tough choice between those two.
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Old 12-24-2014, 03:04 PM   #3
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Welcome! A fairly broad price range there. For the dollar, assuming good condition, and comparing liveable space to size, the Hatt 48 and the Defever are hard boats to beat. I find the Nordy's a bit chopped up inside and quite simply, the Hatt and the Defever are better boats than the Selene. For me, might be a tough choice between those two.
Thanks! Yes a fairly broad range - from $250K to $450K. If I buy an older boat I expect to spend more on her than a newer one. Hence the range in prices.

I got very close on a Hatteras 48LRC - there aren't many on the west coast. It's hard to judge what's a good price since they're older and conditions vary so much.

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Old 12-24-2014, 03:04 PM   #4
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Greetings,
Welcome aboard. "My name's not Mat..." Ooohhhh. I gotcha now. I like you already.

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Old 12-24-2014, 05:58 PM   #5
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In the very beginning Mat was the only person here. Then he got caught up in the anchor thread. It's a tragic sea story. Welcome
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Old 12-24-2014, 06:43 PM   #7
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In the very beginning Mat was the only person here. Then he got caught up in the anchor thread. It's a tragic sea story. Welcome
Oh, I thought that was Bruce - and then he rode off into the sunset.

Thanks for the welcome!
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Old 12-24-2014, 06:51 PM   #8
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Greetings,
Mr. B. Not quite rode (chain or line)...More like Shanks Mare. Shanks' mare
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Old 12-24-2014, 07:48 PM   #9
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Who/what is Mat? Is that a small rug to be stepped on? I've known persons spelled Matt, however: definitely not to be confused with a rug.
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Old 12-25-2014, 01:54 PM   #11
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Who/what is Mat? Is that a small rug to be stepped on? I've known persons spelled Matt, however: definitely not to be confused with a rug.
Famous People Named Mat - Famous Mats | Famous Birthdays

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Old 12-25-2014, 01:56 PM   #12
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Mr. B. Not quite rode (chain or line)...More like Shanks Mare. Shanks' mare
I can see that this relationship is going to be a real drag...
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Old 12-25-2014, 04:27 PM   #13
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Welcome Mat! I hope your last name is not anchor.
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Wifey B: Ok, if you're not Mat, is your name Lisa?
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Old 12-25-2014, 06:03 PM   #15
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Wifey B: Ok, if you're not Mat, is your name Lisa?
Ok - you got me there!

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I vote we change Richard's name to Mat.




Wifey B, Obscure song reference, nice!
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I vote we change Richard's name to Mat.




Wifey B, Obscure song reference, nice!
Wifey B: Yes, song before my time but still I've heard of it.

So the trivia question is what's the name of the girl in the song lamenting that "I'm not Lisa", referring to her boyfriend continuing to mention his prior girlfriend, Lisa?

Answer: Julie

So guess that mean's if he's not Lisa, he must be Julie.
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Richard-- If your plans include open ocean cruising you will probably want to take Grand Banks off your list. They are not blue water boats, but are terrific coastal cruisers. While they can certainly handle benign days on the open ocean, if you get caught out in a weather change and you're too far out to run for shelter ahead of the change, or the closest sheltered harbor is too far away, a GB is not the kind of boat you want to be out there in.
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Wifey B: Yes, song before my time but still I've heard of it.

So the trivia question is what's the name of the girl in the song lamenting that "I'm not Lisa", referring to her boyfriend continuing to mention his prior girlfriend, Lisa?

Answer: Julie

So guess that mean's if he's not Lisa, he must be Julie.
Ok - I give in - this is clearly a self-inflicted wound on my part. Just call me Mat and let's be done with it!

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Old 12-26-2014, 01:33 PM   #20
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Richard-- If your plans include open ocean cruising you will probably want to take Grand Banks off your list. They are not blue water boats, but are terrific coastal cruisers. While they can certainly handle benign days on the open ocean, if you get caught out in a weather change and you're too far out to run for shelter ahead of the change, or the closest sheltered harbor is too far away, a GB is not the kind of boat you want to be out there in.
Much as I might be crossing oceans in my dreams, I realize it almost certainly won't happen. However, the Pacific Coast can still deal up some nasty stuff and I while I won't be reckless I want options if things are not ideal. The GB is off my list for that and other reasons.

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