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Old 08-19-2015, 06:47 PM   #21
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Mr. HC. Just posted this in the Racor thread. Your cute and furry comment brought this to mind...What a co-inky-dinky...

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Old 08-19-2015, 06:58 PM   #22
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This used to be true. Sadly, it is becoming less true with every passing year.
Compared to the Gulf Coast? I am quite sure it is still very true....

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DO you really plan to grow up? don't do it !!!!
Never said I planned to, just that I had no idea where it might happen.....

Like my older sister sez, "It's never too late to have a happy childhood!"

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Old 08-19-2015, 08:00 PM   #24
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Good Evening TF Family:
Well this is my first. Be gentle! I'm an emotional kind.
After 22 years boating with Forky (and that's being kind) we have found ourself with an empty nest. Our 18 year old- after 1 year of college, has more sense than Mom and Dad. Bahahaha! We are wanting to move quick before he figures it out.
After reassessing unexpected freedom 4-5 years early- we realized that some doors had opened up that could begin a whole new lifestyle. It would require a tremendous amount of work to pull it off- but we have lived this way for the last 18 years with our own business and very little time really enjoying our trawler; although we do better than some getting out.
And so it begins. Where to start? Seattle we think (flying in for a few days in 4 weeks) to have a look around.
Target is 1.5 years (mine is 1 year!!), Did I mention we have three dogs and a squirrel (Sebi)??
I'm not much on anchoring (sorry I'm trying) but I do love to boat, exploring beautiful waterways and wildlife I go nuts over. Would I mind clam chowder in Pikes Market while purchasing fish and flowers? Nothing wrong with that either right??
I am agreeing to live on a trawler!
Seeking wisdom, advice and prayers as we begin our research ?




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More power to you lady. The wisdom to see it's possible in your life and not waiting. We've never looked back although we do still have a house on land. In fact, going to visit it on Friday.

I'm not an anchorer either....sounded like a nice new word to set our linguistics snob off. With three dogs, honestly marinas will be a whole lot easier if you can afford it. I do have to ask you about the dogs though or say one thing. Do what is best for them. You know them better than anyone. Maybe not the same for all three. Maybe best to go. Maybe best to stay behind in the world they know with adoptive parents. Squirrel, I know nothing about taking on a boat and wager no one here does. I know they have lots and lots of nuts....they store them I mean.

There are so many great places to start. I'd look at climates. Always bikini season in FL and you're use to warm in Gulfport. Actually where you now live starting on a very extended cruise to FL and beyond could be great. Wherever you start, you'll love it.
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Old 08-19-2015, 08:28 PM   #25
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I can relate to her wanting to start far from home. If they start in Florida it'll be too darn easy for the kids to find them
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Old 08-19-2015, 08:49 PM   #26
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FLW, welcome to TF. I live in Eastern WA where it's not as crowded, not as dangerous, not as many gang bangers or shootings, not as much traffic, and it doesn't take us 2 hours to get across town to go somewhere for dinner.


I do tend to agree with Marin. I would not live in Seattle for any amount of money. I hate the traffic, I hate the liberal mentality ("nobody should be able to own a gun"), I hate the crowded streets and sidewalks and malls. Oh, and did I mention the extremely high cost of living and the taxes?


That being said, we have two kids who live in Seattle and we're headed over there next month with our Whaler to do some exploring around Lake Union and Lake Washington.


You know the sad tale....It's a great place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there.
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There are some very nice neighborhoods in West Bellevue; very serene, little traffic, no crime, easy access to freeways, walkable to Bellevue shops and restaurants, and close to the lake. Most of the traffic comes to bellevue from the freeway to the east, then leaves the same way, never having a reason to venture into West Bellevue. You have to pay a little more, but worth it to us.
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Old 08-20-2015, 12:49 AM   #28
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There are some very nice neighborhoods in West Bellevue;

Yeah.... the only problem with that is you have to live in Bellevue. Most people's eyes can't look down their noses at that steep of an angle.

And we know longtime residents of Bellevue, too. Some of them used to live in the Clyde Hill neighborhood and one was a near neighbor of Bill Gates. They, too, have had it with the traffic, noise, messed up development, and taxes and have moved or are moving elsewhere to escape it.

Face it, the whole greater Seattle area is in an accelerating decline into crappyness. Both Nordstrom and Amazon were mere inches from pulling the plug on Seattle as their headquarters. Nordstrom was headed for Chicago and more recently Amazon was headed for somewhere else. Both of them were persuaded, primarily by one fellow, to remain in Seattle, one of the city's most powerful (and unknown) property developers and managers. I would never have known about this had I not been hired to write a book about his family and their fourth-generation company.

So it's not just me that thinks this area is getting more sucky by the day. Seattle seems determined to drive successful business out of the city with it's loony-tunes, anti-business ordinances and restrictions.

Bellevue has been cashing in on this and very successfully luring businesses away from Seattle, but now Bellevue is starting to succumb to all the same bozo actions that are dragging Seattle down.

Too bad, really. Both cities could have really done it right. But as GFC over in Tri-Cities alluded to, both cities are embarked on pursuing a political and social agenda that will ultimately defeat them.

To end this on a positive note, for someone interested in moving to the PNW and Puget Sound region, particularly to retire, the west side of the Sound--- the Kitsap Peninsula, Bainbridge Island, and the Olympic Peninsula, are still very nice. The Pacific coast is nice, too, if you like that sort of thing, notably from Ocean Shores up to Moclips (but not including Ocean Shores which is pretty pathetic) and on south past Long Beach.

Whidbey Island is very cool in a rather eclectic way, particularly the south end. Friends I used to work in commercial television in Honolulu have moved there in recent years so we are over there quite a bit these days, and we really like it. My wife finished her US Navy duty on the crash crew at Whidbey Island NAS and she says that while there have been a lot of changes, the island is not that unlike it was when she was stationed there. The Bellingham area is nice albeit rapidly getting pricey. The city itself is not all that picturesque but it has Western Washington University, a very highly rated school, and college towns tend to be cool just because they're college towns.

It's anybody's guess what the accelerating climate change will do to this region--- the predictions are pretty depressing to people who've lived here a long time---- but for the time being, the parts of western Washington that aren't Seattle/Bellevue/Redmond/Tacoma/King and Pierce counties still have a lot to offer.
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Come down to Seattle every year for annual medicals. Have for years. Learning years ago as the crime rate started to creep first coming North to the South Center Mall from am area called "White Center" and now as it creeps towards Northgate Mall.
You see the encroachment each year and confirms what you read in the Seattle newspapers. Like Marin so eloquently laid out, the city has gone to hell.

."C-C" is now a our personal choice and in effect when in Seattle.

We leave our housing around 10 AM and make it a point to be back by 2:30-3 PM just to assure a parking place.

Condos construction in former zoned single dwelling neighborhoods is at a jet speed rate. While there has to be a parking spot for each unit, most residents have two cars hence the pressure on parking is unbelievable, confirming Marin again regarding traffic (And street construction/repairs) just bog the imagination.

Enough! Thanks Marin, now we are dreading the October trip!

To the OP. Look at Wrangell Alaska, Now there is a out of the box suggestion for living on a boat in a wonderful small retirement community of 2000 souls. no crime,
Wonderful water to cruise, great boat haul-out facility, golf, community activities, fishing, new harbor with wonderus facilities for live aboards. You will not be found a stranger in Wrangell.

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We've never visited Wrangell by boat, only by floatplane. And we haven't been there for quite awhile now. But it seemed to be a very cool little community. I certainly wouldn't want to try to earn a living there, but retiring there could be great for the kind of person who likes that kind of environment.

Our favorite community in SE Alaska from the day we first visited on our very first floatplane trip north is Petersburg. Made a number of good friends there and the setting is terrific. One thing that makes it great is those God-awful cruise ships with just you and 3,000 of your closest friends can't get in there. So far as I know the largest ship that can get into Petersburg is still the Alaska ferry Columbia.
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Marin, your rants about Seattle and Bellevue are like saying nobody goes to that great restaurant anymore because it's too crowded.
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Old 08-20-2015, 10:47 AM   #33
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Marin, your rants about Seattle and Bellevue are like saying nobody goes to that great restaurant anymore because it's too crowded.
Yes, and the attack on Seattle seems quite excessive. It would be far more helpful just to read that Seattle is not the place for him than a rant making it the worst place known to mankind. Seattle has consistently been near the top of all the "Best places to live" surveys. It's not for everyone and clearly not for Marin. No large city would be. It's not for us either but the reason is climate. Yet, we freely admit that to many it's a nearly perfect climate. They would consider the lack of extreme temperatures. We consider anything under 60 extreme.

If you like small town living, prefer southeast Alaska to any big city, then Seattle will not be the place for you. If you enjoy having a combination of a big city with all the amenities that come with that but also located on a nice body of water in one of the most popular boating areas of the country, then it may just be the perfect place for you.

I'm sure Marin would absolutely hate where we live. However, millions love it and for many people it's their dream to retire here.
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Yeah.... the only problem with that is you have to live in Bellevue. Most people's eyes can't look down their noses at that steep of an angle.
It never stops does it, Marin? You need help!

I visit my daughter and her family who live in Kirkland quite often and I've found that whole area to be delightful! This includes Bellevue which I've learned to love. Yes, the Seattle area is not for everyone but then neither is Issaquah. If your rants are designed to rile people, that's not very smart.
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Welcome aboard Forklift Lady . If ya'll are puting stuff in storage I want Forklift's lathe/mill Good luck with your new decision and have fun
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DOH! Ya ever notice how when you do, or say, something stupid you manage to do it in front of a ton of people? Well, having lived in Poulsbo for over 15 years now I still managed to say it was on the Olympic Peninsula. It is not, it is on the Kitsap peninsula (between Seattle and the Olympic peninsula).

Regardless, the offer still stands. Come on up and take a look around, I think you will like it. We are small-town but still close enough to Seattle to go get a city-fix if really necessary.

Ya know, if you already have a boat down south then just buy another up here. That way you have a Winter boat and a Summer boat. Been seriously thinking about that myself....

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I visit my daughter and her family who live in Kirkland quite often and I've found that whole area to be delightful! This includes Bellevue which I've learned to love. Yes, the Seattle area is not for everyone but then neither is Issaquah. If your rants are designed to rile people, that's not very smart.
Hey, people like different things. If some of them are dumb enough to love living in a city that's below sea level and then act all shocked and surprised when it floods, it's a sure bet there will be others who love to live in the Seattle area.

I just think people who think moving to Seattle is coming to some sort of utopia place ought to know what it's like before making their decision.

As for Seattle being at or near the best places in the US to live, well, look at the competition. Detroit? LA? East St. Louis? In this country, it's real easy for a city to be at the top of the "most liveable" list. They just don't have to be as bad as all the other ones, right?.

As for BandB's statement that I'd hate where he lives, that's spot on. I cannot imagine a worse region in the US to live except South California. I've been to Florida for work several times. What I and my crew came away with is that Florida is a place that's dead flat and always on fire. Of course, now Washington can say that it, too, is always on fire, but at least it's not flat. You can get a nice view of our fires.
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