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02-06-2016, 08:47 AM
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Moderator Emeritus
City: Chicago, IL
Vessel Name: Bay Pelican
Vessel Model: Krogen 42
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 2,993
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Weapons on Board - French Islands
For the third time in eight years the French authorities boarded Bay Pelican and searched for weapons (and cocaine I assume). Three members of the boarder patrol (Douane) spent 90 minutes going over every storage area (and books) on Bay Pelican. While they did miss a couple of my hiding spots, they would have found a weapon if I had had one because they covered all the areas I would have put a weapon.
Suggestion, if you are coming to one of the French Islands, leave the weapons home, or declare them on entry.
This is not meant to be a discussion of weapons on board so please don't hijack the thread.
French law does not allow you to take a photo of a Douane officer without covering his face, so here is a picture of their boat tied to Bay Pelican.
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02-06-2016, 09:33 AM
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Senior Member
City: Great Lakes
Vessel Name: NONE
Vessel Model: NONE
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 448
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Marty, can we hijack it and turn it into a discussion about the French?
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02-06-2016, 10:15 AM
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Enigma
City: Slicker?
Join Date: Oct 2007
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Greetings,
Mr. CK. "...a discussion about the French?". How about a visit to Liberty Island in New York harbor first?
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02-06-2016, 11:16 AM
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Curmudgeon
City: Stoney Creek, MD
Vessel Name: Moon Dance
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I'd rather discuss their food, especially their pastries. Unless that's now considered cultural appropriation.
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02-06-2016, 11:25 AM
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Guru
City: North Carolina for now
Join Date: Aug 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RT Firefly
Greetings,
Mr. CK. "...a discussion about the French?". How about a visit to Liberty Island in New York harbor first?
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Better get there and read the inscription by Emma Lazurus while you can. There's a big political movement to refute it.
To get back to the OP, it is a very good idea to know the laws and declare your weapons almost anywhere (though you don't declare them in New York, know the laws), as soon as you can, the French Islands among them.
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"There's the Right Way, the Wrong Way, and what some guy says he's gotten away with"
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02-06-2016, 12:10 PM
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Guru
City: Hailing Port: Charleston, SC
Vessel Name: Moonstruck
Vessel Model: Sabre 42 Hardtop Express
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 8,276
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If it were not for the French, we would still be a British colony.
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02-06-2016, 02:24 PM
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Veteran Member
City: Richmond Va
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 33
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So if you declare them.....what happens?
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02-06-2016, 06:27 PM
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Scraping Paint
City: -
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 13,745
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Also, if they find weapons on your boat that you have not declared...... what happens?
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02-06-2016, 06:53 PM
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Senior Member
City: Benicia CA
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 499
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RT Firefly
Greetings,
Mr. CK. "...a discussion about the French?". How about a visit to Liberty Island in New York harbor first?
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Would this somehow make them less arrogant?
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02-06-2016, 07:11 PM
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Guru
City: Powell River, BC
Vessel Name: Northern Spy
Vessel Model: Nordic Tug 26
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 4,075
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Marin
Also, if they find weapons on your boat that you have not declared...... what happens?
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Have you not seen Papillon?
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02-06-2016, 07:18 PM
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Scraping Paint
City: -
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 13,745
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Northern Spy
Have you not seen Papillon?
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No, actually.
PS--- I sort of recall reading a book by that name a long time ago. I just looked the movie up on Google and read the plot, and if I did read the book I don't remember anything about it.
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02-06-2016, 08:06 PM
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TF Site Team
City: Jacksonville
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 11,680
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And it's not just the French. We've been seriously inspected after having been boarded at least 12 times by Customs/CG/Navy/Marines and other agencies from different countries. The boarding personnel have all been professionals but they would love to find something on your boat and then I think things would change a bit.
They know where to look. When we stopped in Aruba we had 5 personnel on the boat plus a dog. One guy spent 20 minutes in the engine alone. They pretty found all of my hidey holes although they were empty.
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02-07-2016, 05:41 AM
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Guru
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 22,553
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Suggestion, if you are coming to one of the French Islands, leave the weapons home, or declare them on entry.
Last time I was in the Carib , and walked 1/2 mile up hill to the Gendarme station with a crew list ,
and told the officer we had a shotgun on board, the response was,,,,,,,,,,,"BON"
Not like the old British islands that still fear their citizens will revolt.
200 miles from Bermuda , they can pick you out on radar and start calling to get a list of weapons on board!!!
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02-07-2016, 07:07 AM
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Guru
City: Gulf Shores, Ala.
Vessel Name: Ulysses
Vessel Model: Romsdal 1963
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 878
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In Cuba last year. Their entry form has a box to check if you are declaring a weapon. Just check the box if you have a weapon. No problem.
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02-07-2016, 07:44 AM
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Guru
City: North Charleston, SC
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 4,870
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Moonstruck
If it were not for the French, we would still be a British colony.
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And if it were not for the USA, the French would be Germans.
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02-07-2016, 09:18 AM
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Veteran Member
City: Richmond Va
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cervelo
So if you declare them.....what happens?
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So any chance of getting a serious answer to the question or point me in the right direction....a thread, book or heck even a diffrent fourm where you know you could get some useful information
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02-07-2016, 09:30 AM
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Guru
City: Gulf Shores, Ala.
Vessel Name: Ulysses
Vessel Model: Romsdal 1963
Join Date: May 2013
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Cervelo: In Cuba they asked that it be kept under lock and key during our stay and not to leave the vessel with it. I am sure most all countries are different. In D.R. they will have you surrender the weapon to the harbor master until your departure.
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02-09-2016, 08:07 AM
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Guru
City: Tampa, FL
Join Date: Nov 2013
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Larry M
They know where to look.
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Precisely. This is their JOB. There isn't anyplace that you can hide something, that they haven't already seen it before. I really have to laugh at the extraordinary self-delusion when I see people posting about how they have a hiding place for this or that, that NOBODY could ever find. Yeah. Sure. Keep tellin' yourself that.
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02-09-2016, 08:22 AM
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Enigma
City: Slicker?
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 16,563
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Greetings,
Mr. C. Perhaps the best source for specific and current information regarding firearms aboard will be the actual government of the country you anticipate visiting. I suspect a quick e-mail to the tourist bureau should net you, either redirection to the appropriate officials or an actual answer. You'll have the official answer in writing then.
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02-12-2016, 10:08 AM
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Guru
City: Fort Pierce
Vessel Name: Florita Ann
Vessel Model: 1982 Present
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 1,935
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How about up a mast in a radar reflector? Just a thought. Some look large enough for a 1911.
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