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Old 03-29-2014, 01:28 PM   #1
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Does this make me cheap?

So current diesel price at my marina is $3.95 plus tax. Off road diesel at the station on the way to the marina, tax included, is $3.39. I have a pick up and enough jugs to haul 40 gallons a load so I've been stopping on the way to the boat and hauling 40 gallons down at a time.

So far I've put in 320 gallons at a savings of about $265. I have a 15 year old son and I make him haul the full jugs. Still a bit of a pita to pour it in though.

Worth it? Is it just me?
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Old 03-29-2014, 01:34 PM   #2
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Yes, you're cheap. I'm as cheap as anybody and I resent the marine markups where we pay a million bucks for a stainless screw that rusts in a year, but for that price differential - no, definitely not worth the hassle. I just spent more than that differential over 100 gallons on a stainless piano hinge for the salon hatch.
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Old 03-29-2014, 01:36 PM   #3
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So current diesel price at my marina is $3.95 plus tax. Off road diesel at the station on the way to the marina, tax included, is $3.39. I have a pick up and enough jugs to haul 40 gallons a load so I've been stopping on the way to the boat and hauling 40 gallons down at a time.

So far I've put in 320 gallons at a savings of about $265. I have a 15 year old son and I make him haul the full jugs. Still a bit of a pita to pour it in though.

Worth it? Is it just me?
Probably fresher with less entrained water too.
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Old 03-29-2014, 03:25 PM   #4
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We used to do that when we had a 24 ft bayliner with a 55 gal tank. No way would I schlep fuel for our Mainship. Too much hassle to save a few $$.
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Old 03-29-2014, 03:28 PM   #5
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Still a bit of a pita to pour it in though.

Save your back! Try a Safety Siphon, or Super Siphon.
You can find them at almost any auto parts store for about $10.
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Old 03-29-2014, 03:36 PM   #6
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I wouldn't worry too much about what other people think, especially people you don't know.

Figure in the cost of the jugs, the cost to run the truck and the cost of your and your son's time. If it makes sense to you, do it.

Provided of course, that it's not against the marina rules.
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Old 03-29-2014, 03:41 PM   #7
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We used to use a heating oil distributor who filled up all the commercial boats and supplied the Port as well. He would meet us at the commercial pier and fill us up, 200 gallon minimum for quite a savings. We would get three or four boats together and take on 1000 gal. total and he'd give us a pretty good discount.

But the Port finally wised up and lowered their prices, so now it's not much savings and not worth the time.
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Old 03-29-2014, 04:17 PM   #8
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Our area Marina diesel is $3.80. The off road fuel at gas stations is $3.85. The thing that frost my butt is I just paid $4.03 for home heating oil. Go fugure
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Old 03-29-2014, 04:22 PM   #9
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I often top up my fuel with a jerry can as well. Not due to cost savings, but for convenience.
The main reason is there is no fuel sales at our marina. The closest marine fuel outlet is a 2 hour cruise north, or a 6 hour cruise south.

With my low fuel usage, usually about 2-3 litres (1/2 gallon) per hour, its not really much of a problem.
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Old 03-29-2014, 04:32 PM   #10
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Our area Marina diesel is $3.80. The off road fuel at gas stations is $3.85. The thing that frost my butt is I just paid $4.03 for home heating oil. Go fugure
Depends on the states taxing scheme. Road fuel here adds another 37 1/2 cents per gallon to the price of gas or diesel at the pump. Off road fuel you don't pay the road tax, but you have to pay a sales tax on the total sale which is around 8% depending on the county you buy the fuel in. So at $4 per gallon you're still going to pay 32 cents more per gallon. They get their money one way or the other.

ps. Now they don't think that is enough so the Governor wants to add another 11 cents per gallon. If they could just figure out how to tax the air we breath, then all would be right with the world !!
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Old 03-29-2014, 05:02 PM   #11
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Depends on the states taxing scheme. Road fuel here adds another 37 1/2 cents per gallon to the price of gas or diesel at the pump. Off road fuel you don't pay the road tax, but you have to pay a sales tax on the total sale which is around 8% depending on the county you buy the fuel in. So at $4 per gallon you're still going to pay 32 cents more per gallon. They get their money one way or the other. ps. Now they don't think that is enough so the Governor wants to add another 11 cents per gallon. If they could just figure out how to tax the air we breath, then all would be right with the world !!
Texas must have a good setup. Visiting universities Texas A&M and UT this week. Highway diesel is 1.99....3.30 or so at Oregon marinas or worse.

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You are lucky that you can do it...

A lot of marinas prohibit it and some would terminate your lease over it.

I have known marinas to make life miserable for boaters that fuel down the waterway to save some money or flat out were asked to leave because they routinely filled elsewhere.

Cheap...well if it's no big deal to your marina then no...frugal may be the better word.

Lot's of people on here have the money not to worry about all kinds of things and they remind us every chance they get...but saving hundreds of dollars to some of us means we can do other things we like without scrimping elsewhere.
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Old 03-29-2014, 06:28 PM   #13
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You are lucky that you can do it...
A lot of marinas prohibit it and some would terminate your lease over it.
I have known marinas to make life miserable for boaters that fuel down the waterway to save some money or flat out were asked to leave because they routinely filled elsewhere.
You have to go over to the commercial docks where the fishing boats fuel. They can't refuel you in your slip. Many of the Marina on the west coast are publicly owned "Port Districts" and lots of the private marinas don't sell fuel. So no pressure here!!
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Old 03-29-2014, 06:45 PM   #14
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For the last boat with a single T6354 we used take 2 10L containers full each time we went onboard, kept it nicely topped up. And if you are a fuel additive/snake oil user, dose each 10L as you go, and as NS said, every chance it`s fresher, with less water. It`s just not practical with twin Lehmans. $4 a gallon, try around $6.60 best price at Baileys Sydney, per 4L.
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Old 03-29-2014, 06:59 PM   #15
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You have to go over to the commercial docks where the fishing boats fuel. They can't refuel you in your slip. Many of the Marina on the west coast are publicly owned "Port Districts" and lots of the private marinas don't sell fuel. So no pressure here!!
I was talking jugs down the dock...

But you are right about delivery...I used to refuel behind my rental to my sportfish...was definitely worth it just in time saved.

The truck pumped about 10X faster and the fuel was definitely fresher.
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Old 03-29-2014, 10:16 PM   #16
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Yeah, it is not a big deal to my marina, heck they have probably 75% of their slips empty (as does every other marina in this area pretty much). They won't send away somebody who pays their slip fee every month on time.

It's laid back up here in the redneck part of the state. That is one of the nice things about it.

Oh and I already owned the jugs. It sort of reminds me of that Seinfeld episode where Kramer and Newman take the bottles across state lines in the mail truck. You've got to control your costs to get ahead! :-)

Oh, and I already knew I was a little cheap. I got it from my mom.
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You are lucky you are allowed to do it though. As Psneeld mentioned, in many marinas it is not allowed. A sign stating this is the first thing to greet you as you approach the arm gate at our marina, that's for sure. And if you think you are paying a lot - you are not. You US folks have always had much cheaper fuel than anywhere else in the world, other than maybe the UAE. So enjoy while it lasts. Here we pay $1.60/litre for our boat diesel.
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Old 03-29-2014, 11:59 PM   #18
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You US folks have always had much cheaper fuel than anywhere else in the world, other than maybe the UAE. So enjoy while it lasts. Here we pay $1.60/litre for our boat diesel.
Countries other than UAE have inexpensive fuel prices compared to the U.S, like Venezuela and Mexico. Higher-than-U.S. fuel prices are largely self-inflicted. You have higher taxes on them. (Governments in the U.S. -- federal, state, and local --- make more money off of fuel than the domestic producers.)
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Mexico used to be a fraction of the cost of the US. I had friends in San Diego who would cross the border once a week to fill up. Not so much anymore, they've stopped subsidizing their fuel and added taxes. So they're a lot closer to our prices now . . . Pemex shows average cost is $3.76 USD for diesel now.
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Old 03-30-2014, 02:15 AM   #20
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Fuel is expensive but I still maintain it is the cheapest part of boating. For all the hassle of dragging jugs around and dripping diesel and and and it's just not worth it. Haulouts, insurance, parts, moorage etc etc.

A friend of mine says boating is the best time you can buy.
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