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Old 01-14-2013, 06:51 AM   #21
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There are many truck companies that have hundreds of trucks.

Their driver fleet varies from great to pure crap.

They track mileage very carefully (they pay the bills) .

The required clean air equipment , going after that last 1 or 2 % lowers fleet mileage by about 15% .

And caused great increases in maint ,and decrease in reliability , to the point that the "bad" trucks are simply sold , new ones purchased.
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Old 01-14-2013, 01:15 PM   #22
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As an aside, all ships entering California waters, must shift to light diesel fuel thanks to the enviro- wackos that rule this state. Of course, this rule leads to higher shipping costs that are passed on to consumers, so what the heck.
Talk about whackos ... there are emissions regulated areas all over the world now, not just California. If you want the next generation of little Ancoras to breath, though I shudder at that thought, how about quit whining about people who care enough about the world to help keep it livable.

And, not that reality or the truth is part of your vocabulary or of much importance to you, California's limit on sulfur for ships is 0.1 percent. That is about 67 times the amount in on-road truck fuel so it's not like the State has forced ships to burn truck stop fuel.
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It is obvious that you believe each and every environmental and energy related regulation is the devil's work but give it a break, try to learn something about the world you live in and stop listening to the anti-everything whackjobs for a while ... just try it for a week.
A very close friend of mine spent a few weeks in Havana this past summer. He said the place was filthy but what really made an impression on him was the air pollution. He said he now appreciates what the EPA has done for air pollution in this country.

And no, my friend is not some liberal left wing wacko who was in Cuba to pay homage to Castro.
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Old 01-14-2013, 08:07 PM   #24
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Truckers don't actually go 55mph do they?
Actually most do in CA.... Tickets are too expensive.... but some of them will push the mark.
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Old 01-15-2013, 01:22 AM   #25
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Actually most do in CA.... Tickets are too expensive.... but some of them will push the mark.
They drive 55 when mired in traffic or carrying a Haz Mat load. Some companies(notably UPS) monitor their trucks and the corporate electronic babysitter keeps their speed at 55. "Push the mark" must be a reference to the speed the bulk of the fleet normally drives.

Not casting stones just stating observed facts from driving among them daily. You will have a hard time convincing anyone living and driving California highways daily that very many trucks drive 55 mph unless a cop is in the area or when approaching a scale.
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Old 01-15-2013, 07:12 AM   #26
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He said he now appreciates what the EPA has done for air pollution in this country.
Yeah but the EPA is a real threat to profits!

With reference to Marin's claims that the US will soon be put out of business by the Chinese and their work ethic in cooperation with a government that doesn't put so many silly environmental barriers to achieving that goal, here is a photo of the folks who will do it ... well, maybe some of them - those who survive long enough.

Record Beijing air pollution forces warning from China officials to keep kids indoors - CBS News

Chinese air pollution hits record levels

China pledges to curb auto emissions, reduce air pollution - latimes.com
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They drive 55 when mired in traffic or carrying a Haz Mat load. Some companies(notably UPS) monitor their trucks and the corporate electronic babysitter keeps their speed at 55. "Push the mark" must be a reference to the speed the bulk of the fleet normally drives.

Not casting stones just stating observed facts from driving among them daily. You will have a hard time convincing anyone living and driving California highways daily that very many trucks drive 55 mph unless a cop is in the area or when approaching a scale.
Our fleets trucks were heavily monitored...and we had the electronic logs to boot. Normally we pulled hazmat into CA, and hazmat out.... So the speeds were kept to 55...except when climbing the "Grapevine"....

Pushing the mark relates to the fact that thee were a number of them that would take a chance on not getting caught....

My take...... was that most people in CA in cars were averaging around 75 or 80 most of the time...and I always marveled at the fact that CA held truck speeds to 55...even in the desert areas.... Revenue??
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Our fleets trucks were heavily monitored...and we had the electronic logs to boot. Normally we pulled hazmat into CA, and hazmat out.... So the speeds were kept to 55...except when climbing the "Grapevine"....
Hazmat haulers are easily identified as they are the ones all the other trucks are passing. We call them rolling chicanes.

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My take...... was that most people in CA in cars were averaging around 75 or 80 most of the time...and I always marveled at the fact that CA held truck speeds to 55...even in the desert areas.... Revenue??
Correct!
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With reference to Marin's claims that the US will soon be put out of business by the Chinese and their work ethic in cooperation with a government that doesn't put so many silly environmental barriers to achieving that goal....
You are failing to see the beauty of their situation. Without environmental barriers they can accelerate their so-far extremely successful program to bury the US economically, while at the same time the environmental freedom that is allowing them to do this is also helping to solve their massive population problem.

So for them, that photo you posted depicts a win-win.
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Old 01-17-2013, 06:13 AM   #30
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Folks wanting the small truck owners view of the issues involved with large trucks might want to visit

OOIDA , and read their mag , LAND LINE.

In the larger sizes 250-600hp their engines are the source of many of our boat motor conversions , their experience on economy , reliability and repairability are of interest.
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