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Old 01-13-2015, 03:18 PM   #1
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Angels Three Six

I'm a little more than half way thru this book, titled "Angels Three Six" by Chuck Lehman.

I know there are a number of aviators and ex AF folks here, and this book had been a real unexpected surprise, so much so that I feel compelled to share with you.

In spite of the corny title and mundane cover, this has turned out to be one of the most interesting and well written aviation books I've ever read.

Justifiably so, many books have been written about the USAF and the Vietnam war years, many are good, some like the Robin Olds book are classic.

But I've seen little written about the early '60s and even less about the F102 & F106.

By the time I joined the USAF in 1976, many of these old guys had either: not survived the war, not survived the bureaucracy the AF had become or were far above my pay grade.

Having spent most of my 11 years outside CONUS, I knew virtually nothing of the Norad mission and besides it had changed so much.

So this book is fascinating: from learning we lost 9 birds due to weather one night (you'd think I'd know that, or remember it at least), to just the loosey goosey era it was, this book is a must read.



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Old 01-13-2015, 03:27 PM   #2
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Thanks for the review, I'll certainly check it out
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Old 01-13-2015, 05:44 PM   #3
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Thanks for the recommendation, Richard.

I assume Angels Three Six refers to 36,000 ft in Navy lingo, is that close?
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Old 01-13-2015, 07:13 PM   #4
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Just downloaded it on Kindle. I spent 22 years keeping the "slimy tentacles of communism from encircling the earth", most of which was spent around NORAD and Space Command. Didn't get to work with F102/106 since they had already converted to F4E's when I got into Alaska in 1975. I went through the conversion to F-15C's in the 1980s. They have since converted to the F22 now.

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Just finished it. A pretty good quick read. I started flying in the Air Force about the time most of those guys were retiring. I flew a "special" version of the C-130 and we regularly flew intercepts against F-106s out of Tyndall.
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Thanks for the recommendation.
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Thanks I was ina good while after most of those guys

I was a survival instructor so I got to meet a lot of avaition heros in Panama
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Just ordered for my Kindle. Looks like there were some other books about that era that would be interesting to read. Kinda out of boat books to read so I guess it is back to history books.

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Just watched the Atlas rocket launch of the Navy comms satellite while anchored behind Patrick AFB near Canaveral....

As always....outstanding!!!

Thanks Air Force...Patrick was a nice facility and great host!

Before the rocket launch.....had an air show of a Navy PA doing touch and go's till after sunset, a single engine Huey (didn't know anyone still flew them besides hollywood), several CH-47's and a few others in the parttern.
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Just ordered for my Kindle. Looks like there were some other books about that era that would be interesting to read. Kinda out of boat books to read so I guess it is back to history books.

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That's exactly why I've started reading all these books. I'm now reading American Sniper, good book, but not as well written as some others I've read.

What is depressing is ever since LBJ and that moron McNarmara, we get these wars in which the morons in the white house make ROE that endanger our guys to no purpose.
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I just finished reading "Killing Patton" by Bill O'Rilley. Good read about the General the Nazis feared the most.
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I just finished reading "Killing Patton" by Bill O'Rilley. Good read about the General the Nazis feared the most.
And we almost derailed him also.

i still think Market Garden would have been successful had he been the commander and not Montgomery. I have close friends in Arnhem and Nijmegen, so it's a thing I'm reminded of.

Also, it's why I got out of the Air Force. I reached a point that I felt "Bombs on Target" had become our last priority.
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And we almost derailed him also.

i still think Market Garden would have been successful had he been the commander and not Montgomery. I have close friends in Arnhem and Nijmegen, so it's a thing I'm reminded of.

Also, it's why I got out of the Air Force. I reached a point that I felt "Bombs on Target" had become our last priority.


By the time I got senior enough to speak my mind without winding up in the brig, I was so tired of politicians trying to do my job I would tell them....."please allow me to do my job...I'm a career officer....you are just a temp".....

No wonder I never made it any higher....
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By the time I got senior enough to speak my mind without winding up in the brig, I was so tired of politicians trying to do my job I would tell them....."please allow me to do my job...I'm a career officer....you are just a temp".....

No wonder I never made it any higher....
See, that's shows how much wiser you are/were than I

But it's taken me many years to realise that what seems obvious to me, is seldom obvious to others, as they have different objectives and I'm the sap who takes everything literally.
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Also, it's why I got out of the Air Force. I reached a point that I felt "Bombs on Target" had become our last priority.
Me too. I wasn't General material, but I could fly an airplane pretty good. Not what they were looking for.
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Me too. I wasn't General material, but I could fly an airplane pretty good. Not what they were looking for.
My company has been prompting people for years based on management/team lead skills and not on technical skills even though the person was in a technical position. One could be great technically but if one was not doing the team lead/management stuff you would be laid off. Tens of thousands of US jobs have been lost through this process. People with critical skills, irreplaceable skills, kick out the door.

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Watched a C-130 fly over my house yesterday at 300'. There are times I miss the Air Force.
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Watched a C-130 fly over my house yesterday at 300'. There are times I miss the Air Force.
I sure do not miss jumping out of those my body is well aware of a few bad landings
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The C-130 was one of the best jump aircraft ever. I also liked the 119 boxcar, the carribou, and the 123. I didn't like the 141. I was one of the first sticks out the door on that aircraft and they didn't have any step or deflector yet. We dented the hell out of that fuselage that day! I never had a bad landing tho. Lord, it was great when we were invincible.
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