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Old 11-09-2015, 12:56 PM   #41
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That's exactly the kind of info I was looking for! You guys are great! I had similar concerns as raised by Larry M with the butyl tape oozing under shifting loads. Hadn't considered the rough surface issue Roger raised. The teak platform sits on the deck non-skid, so there is some irregularity involved.

Dolfinite sounds like a possibility, but the oozing concerns me. The 291 sounds just about perfect. Good sealant, rubbery consistency and light-moderate adhesion. 3M 4000 will be my second choice as even that has more adhesion than I'd like.

The way my pulpit is sandwiched together, I think I'll use a combination of products. Starting at the top, the SS plate is mated to the top surface of the pulpit. There is no lateral load there and butyl tape would be a good candidate there. At the teak-on-teak joint between the pulpit plank and the platform top end and the teak-on-deck-nonskid joint at the bottom end of the platform, 291 (or 4000) would be applied. This should allow easier disassembly in the future.

Thanks for all the great perspectives and advice, guys!
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Old 11-09-2015, 12:58 PM   #42
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261 sikaflex or lifecaulk would be my choice, make sure you get rid of the silicon residue with mek followed with methonol. 5200 is too ridgid for wood to frp.
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Old 11-09-2015, 01:46 PM   #43
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Is that helpful to Al or are you blessing us w your humor?
Definitely not helpful to Al, nor was your response, nor is a post saying one would never want a pulpit, since he's got one, nor are the posts about FC's feet. Many observations and comments enter a thread. Just the way things work.
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Al,
I probably overstated the oozs part. On the pulpit the medium shock loads will probably break one side of the 291 seam appart (it did on Willy even w/o a puplit) but SikaFlex is easy to use. If you use Dolfinite and it oozes out a bit just swipe the excess off w a popsicle stick. The more the ooze the more you've got the seam packed w sealant.
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Old 11-09-2015, 01:56 PM   #45
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Definitely not helpful to Al, nor was your response, nor is a post saying one would never want a pulpit, since he's got one, nor are the posts about FC's feet. Many observations and comments enter a thread. Just the way things work.
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Al,
I probably overstated the oozs part. On the pulpit the medium shock loads will probably break one side of the 291 seam appart (it did on Willy even w/o a puplit) but SikaFlex is easy to use. If you use Dolfinite and it oozes out a bit just swipe the excess off w a popsicle stick. The more the ooze the more you've got the seam packed w sealant.
All comments, suggestions and tips are welcome and appreciated...even the humorous ones. But you're right, B&B...the pulpit ain't going away!

My comment to FC was regarding his recent and impressive 'hike' along the Camino in Spain. He trekked 300 miles on foot! Sometimes personal comments enter a conversation and I'm good with that. It's how we speak in person, too.
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Old 11-09-2015, 03:24 PM   #46
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All comments, suggestions and tips are welcome and appreciated...even the humorous ones. But you're right, B&B...the pulpit ain't going away!

My comment to FC was regarding his recent and impressive 'hike' along the Camino in Spain. He trekked 300 miles on foot! Sometimes personal comments enter a conversation and I'm good with that. It's how we speak in person, too.
And I thought the "hike" was interesting. It didn't in any way for me distract from the topic, just was an aside. You see someone you haven't for a long time, you turn away and speak to them, ask how they've been.

Really a small amount of off topic in a thread never bothers me. Off topic bothers me only when someone takes over to push some entirely different agenda.
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I think I used 4200 on my platform and on the anchor roller . Thru bolted with sst backing plates . That 5th hole for my windlass is a $&@& up .
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Anchor roller and windlass mount. Notice extra hole
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Old 11-09-2015, 03:41 PM   #49
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Still, awful pretty though. Isn't that hole for drainage??
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What is that space used for under the winch/capstan?
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I think he meant no harm, he was just looking for a place to hang his HATT!
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...or as we call it in hockey, a Hatt Trick!

On a brighter note, my Lewmar claw anchor held us both in place just fine!
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Old 11-17-2015, 11:09 PM   #54
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Dang Al, I didn't know until now that Flywright button holed a Hatt. In my swordfish harpooning days and the dart went all the way through, that was called "button holing". Is it being repaired now? See, you should have gone tuna fishing with us. The only thing that got broke there was a fishing rod. If the fishing Jones gets too bad for you, give me a call and we'll go find something. I just need an excuse.
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...On a brighter note, my Lewmar claw anchor held us both in place just fine!
Well that just isn't possible, at least according to some experts I know.
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Is it being repaired now? See, you should have gone tuna fishing with us. The only thing that got broke there was a fishing rod. If the fishing Jones gets too bad for you, give me a call and we'll go find something. I just need an excuse.
Yup, it's on the hard now in Vallejo. Thanks for the great offer! We might need to do that! Repairs always seem to take longer than they should.
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Old 12-03-2015, 10:53 PM   #57
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Tomorrow marks one month on the hard and finally some progress has been made. Here's what the bottom looked like at the bow. The transom was in much better shape. All in all, pretty good after 6 years in the water....fresh and brackish.





The rubrail got removed on Tuesday and the new rail appeared on Wed.



I got the hull sides sprayed with oxalic acid from a backyard sprayer and rinsed it off with the onboard fresh water from the FW hose bib. It worked great at removing the tanin stain without any elbow grease. My kind of solution!

I got the new zincs installed just in time for the start of the bottom paint today.







Giggitoni and I swung by today and were surprised at the progress. After nothing but talk for the last month, we're finally seeing results.



The new pulpit is slowly taking shape. The rains, a scarcity here, have slowed the varnish work. Hoping for a splash to beat OCD's east coast splash date of Dec 15. Let the race to the splash begin!
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She's coming together Al, won't be long
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Looking good Al. After using the oxalic acid and flushing with water, be sure to get some form of wax or sealer on your finish. I didn't read that you have done that. I have used oxalic acid on my boat to remove light rust and other stains, but did not re-seal it soon enough. It will oxidize quickly and every little crack or imperfection will fill with tannins and soot from the air. It is much harder to clean again, so make sure to seal it soon.

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Thanks, Bob. I've got some spray wax that will go on after they remove the tape and install the rub rail.
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