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Old 02-02-2016, 06:55 PM   #61
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Jleonard, How did you cover the motor below your vertical winch?
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Old 02-02-2016, 10:02 PM   #62
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Steve I love your bow rail but I'm not nuts about the Samson Post. The tie is too high. With a lot of tension on the anchor rode the tension on the two aft bolts of the Samson post must be extreme. I'd consider a big four bolt cleat that attaches the line right down on the deck. Then the bolts will be almost completely in shear and all four bolts will be taking the load .. not just two in tension.

I have two small Samson posts and would like to be rid of them. They are on the cap rail amidships and I need them for my two spring lines. Mine would be better off if they were tall like yours as there isn't enough room for two lines to tie gracefully. I had a Samson post on the bow but gave it away. That one was really nice looking though.
That's a good point, I might set up a line with a spliced eye, pass it over the post let it lie low on the deck passing under the chain gypsy with a chain hook on the end to grab the chain. It will all just about lie on the deck giving a low point of pull on the post. I also often use a bridal ending on the cleats just inside the bow hawse holes as seen on the avatar pic. when anchoring.
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Old 02-03-2016, 06:53 AM   #63
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Yes, if you are going to take strain on a Sampson post it needs to be really meaty, and go all the way to the deck, but most importantly be braced agains the pulpit like this I think...

Certainly I never have a moment's worry about the strength of my anchoring gear. It's one of the best features of the boat, and there aren't too many of them, when I think about it.
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Old 02-03-2016, 07:24 AM   #64
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Jleonard, How did you cover the motor below your vertical winch?
It is not covered. It gets some protection from being under the pulpit, but that's it.
I guess I could ask the wife to make a sunbrella sleeve, never thought about it until now. Thanks.
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Old 02-03-2016, 07:49 AM   #65
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Originally William had a vertical electric windlass . The line dropped directly into the anchor locker . The area was small,very cluttered and the windlass was in rough shape and the bulkhead between cabin and the anchor locker bulkhead was rotten (plywood covered with fiberglass sandwich).
We rebuilt the caprail,the bow pulpit and the bulkhead.I went with a manual windlass.Now the anchor line drops through the new pulpit and is stored between the two bulkheads. If we want to store the line away we hand feed it into the anchor locker,but most times it left out between the two bulkheads .
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Old 02-03-2016, 10:55 AM   #66
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Marty,
I wondered about a very similar settup on Willy. I like to keep the rode on deck so the berth area smells nice. A rather regular anchor winch on a board (like yours and many others) could just dump the rode (both chain and line) on the deck under the board instead of belowdecks. I could snatch up the rode as it is discharged under the winch and the board. Could be a noisy affair when the chain came up. I like your arrangement a lot but I'd only have about 4 or 5" under the board so I'd need to snach the rode up real quick or it would jan between the deck and the winch board.

I'm commited to my new capstan for now but I don't forget good ideas like this quickly.
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Marty, do you have an overboard drain in the area between the bulkheads where you store the wet rode? Looks like a great way to contain the water and mud on the deck when using a manual windlass or power winch.

Peter, that looks like a great setup.
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Old 02-03-2016, 12:10 PM   #68
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Snouts keep swinging anchors away from the hull and rode away from it during times where wind and tide may have it rubbing.
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Marty, do you have an overboard drain in the area between the bulkheads where you store the wet rode? Looks like a great way to contain the water and mud on the deck when using a manual windlass or power winch.

Peter, that looks like a great setup.
No overboard drains , but the bulkhead I built is up on pads that allow drainage and it's opened up at the sides also . The other one that rotted was all the way glassed the the deck with only the sides open . Did not drain well . We can wash this area down now with good drainage down the deck .
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Ray,
Where does the rode go?
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It goes below deck thru those two covered holes. Into anchor locker in v berth.
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Old 02-03-2016, 06:14 PM   #73
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... I'm not nuts about the Samson Post. The tie is too high. With a lot of tension on the anchor rode the tension on the two aft bolts of the Samson post must be extreme. I'd consider a big four bolt cleat that attaches the line right down on the deck. Then the bolts will be almost completely in shear and all four bolts will be taking the load ...
That`s what we have, but the problem is getting the line from the bow roller across the Muir windlass down to the cleat. I put a small ss strip along the trailing edge of the "box" enclosure between the bulwarks on which the windlass sits(Grammarians,note preposition location) to accommodate a single line snubber.
We have side bow hawse holes which work well with the cleat in many circumstances, eg. 2 line anchor snubber.
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Ray,
You have a split anchor locker for two rodes?
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@manyboats, to be honest, not sure if split. I haven't gotten that far as she was winterized shortly after I got her in December. I assume the locker is split but will confirm and get some pics next time I am at the boat.
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I don't see how it could work gracefully w/o the locker being split. How could one pour in rode A in on top of rode B and expect rode B to come out as fast as the skipper wants whithout getting tangled up. Or to come out at all?

I'll bet it's split.
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Bound to be split or divided in same way, but there appears to be a bit of a distance sideways from the winch to the through deck apertures for the chain to go down. Mine, if you look, (post 63 above), is directly below - actually goes through an aperture in the pulpit next to the winch and under the gypsy and straight down through the deck. I find it hard to visualise how the chain on Ray's set-up makes its way down into the deck entry point...although the pulpit and Sampson post is a good sturdy arrangement similar to mine.
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Two rodes, one locker. Primary rode piles where ever it falls. Secondary rode goes into a bucket (bottom of pic).

Both rodes have LONG lengths of Nylon that store in the laundry baskets. Nylon portions must be stowed manually but this is a very rare occurrence as the primary chain is long enough for 98% of my anchoring.

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Old 02-04-2016, 02:28 PM   #79
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Never seen that Steve. Thanks for showing. Looks like there may be some Brait mixed in w the three strand on the left.
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Never seen that Steve. Thanks for showing. Looks like there may be some Brait mixed in w the three strand on the left.
To me it looks like the 3 strand is woven into the baskets and secured to hold them in place. It's not part of the rode.
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