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Old 04-11-2019, 10:58 PM   #1
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Seeking 80 lb Manson Supreme in USA

Does anyone know where to get an 80 lb Manson Supreme in the US? Seems like they are on closeout everywhere. Hoping someone has seen one somewhere. So far we have struck out trying to find one.
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Old 04-12-2019, 08:58 AM   #2
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Try a MANTUS. Iíve used both and have an 85# Mantus today.
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I had an 80# Supreme on my CSY44 and loved it. I currently have a 105# Mantus on my MV and love it as well. Give Mantus a look if you don't find the Supreme, you won't be sorry.

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85 lb Mantus will not fit our bow roller without modification, but might still go that route if we cannot find the Manson.
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meridian,
Mr Rain Dog asked specifically for a Supreme.

Have you tried Fisheries Supply in Seattle.
Are you say’in WM is out of stock?
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Old 04-12-2019, 11:09 AM   #6
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Mr Rain Dog asked specifically for a Supreme.

Have you tried Fisheries Supply in Seattle.
Are you sayíin WM is out of stock?
Fisheries does not seem to carry them. West Marine only has two sizes left 5lb and 100lb and they are both on closeout.

They are available on Amazon at great prices with free shipping, but they only go up to 60 lbs.
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I owned 55 and 88# delta anchors that plowed, slowly but never the less plowed as tracked on my GPS. So I moved over to an 80# Manson Supreme that the Rain Dog seeks. This anchor is supposed to be one of the best......I wish I could support that claim. My setup for all anchors used on the boat so far is complemented with 5/16’’HT chain along with an over kill Maxwell HWC2200 windlass.

One of my failures occurred in shallow water, about 10’ at high tide with as much chain set out as the crowed harbor would permit, about 50’ feet. We enjoyed the anchorage for a couple of days when a 180 degree wind shift happened. At that time I was sitting at the helm enjoying the view until I was suddenly put into a state of panic as we to sailed away from others securely anchored.

I had to retrieve the anchor to clean the muck off before I could reset it. Another time I dropped the anchor, again in shallow water (different location) and it would not grab at all!!! I tried numerous times even retrieved it to be sure that it was not tangled in the chain. Gave up on that location and moved on.

Yeah I know, there will be replies telling me “you must have done something wrong.’’ Yeah again, but surprisingly my 25 years anchoring my old 30’ Hunter sailboat was a piece of cake. There I used a Bruce which was great until our harbors filled with ell grass. After that, the Bruce would pull up a 30-50# chunk of ocean bottom securely attached to it.

So my advise is be careful what you wish for.
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I'll echo what foggysail has said. I had a Manson Supreme 176lb on my last boat, oversized according to Manson. I dragged many, many times. I'm getting a Rocna this time around.
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I couldn't find one available through any of our sources either. I realize you asked for a Manson, and understand what you are saying about the Mantus, I think the angles on the Mantus are different enough that fitment is an issue. We switched from a Manson supreme to a Rocna (not the Vulcan) and found that the fit was pretty similar, and never noticed a difference in performance. Just a thought.
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I couldn't find one available through any of our sources either. I realize you asked for a Manson, and understand what you are saying about the Mantus, I think the angles on the Mantus are different enough that fitment is an issue. We switched from a Manson supreme to a Rocna (not the Vulcan) and found that the fit was pretty similar, and never noticed a difference in performance. Just a thought.
Thanks for checking. For reasons that have nothing to do with the quality of their anchors, I could never buy a Rocna. I think you are correct that would be the most logical option for us.

I think I will just go with a Mantus and modify the bowsprit.
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I think I understand your issue with Rocna. What about a Spade? If I were buying a new anchor I would seriously consider a Spade as well.
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I think I understand your issue with Rocna. What about a Spade? If I were buying a new anchor I would seriously consider a Spade as well.
I agree to this .. both the Rocna input and the Spade.
Check out anchor setting vids. Steve tested the Spade early on.
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Ok, I’ll bite. What’s the issue with Rocna?
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Rain Dog,
You may want to look at this thread;
What’s up with Manson?
It’s on page three of “Anchors and Anchoring”

It’s an earlier thread that is probably highly related to yours.
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Fisheries does not seem to carry them. West Marine only has two sizes left 5lb and 100lb and they are both on closeout.

They are available on Amazon at great prices with free shipping, but they only go up to 60 lbs.
We are n year three with our 50k pound ocean Alexander, using a 60 pound Manson. I have never wanted for more and canít imagine 20 more pounds being that much better, if any.

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I have a very good condition 85lb Mantus for sale in the classifieds, it is an amazing anchor. But it didn't fit on the new boat.

SW Florida location.
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Ok, Iíll bite. Whatís the issue with Rocna?
Yeah... I am biting also. Could it be China?
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I think I understand your issue with Rocna. What about a Spade? If I were buying a new anchor I would seriously consider a Spade as well.
I do really like the spade. They are very attractive and I have heard nothing but great things about them. Unfortunately, they are much more expensive than the Mantus, but I would still seriously consider one.
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I have a very good condition 85lb Mantus for sale in the classifieds, it is an amazing anchor. But it didn't fit on the new boat.

SW Florida location.
That looks like the bargain of a lifetime. Someone already beat me to it.
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Ok, Iíll bite. Whatís the issue with Rocna?
There was a period about 10 years ago where a Rocna representative was very active on these forums. His behavior left such a bad impression on me I am permanently prejudiced against Rocna.

As far as I know, this person is no longer affiliated with the company and I believe their anchors are as good as any others, but they are not for me.

I am aware this is an irrational bias on my part, but I am fine with that. IMHO - Mantus, Rocna, Spade, Manson Supreme, and many others are basically all the same for all practical purposes. I would sleep well in a gale with any of them as my anchor. So for me, the choice comes down to price, aesthetics, bias, and what fits on my bow roller.
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