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05-05-2018, 09:37 AM
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Senior Member
City: Blaine
Vessel Name: Slow Bells
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would you replace this anchor chain?
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05-05-2018, 09:43 AM
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City: Fort Myers, FL... Summers in the Great Lakes
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It's still intact enough to be reliable, from what I can see. That said, I would replace it if I planned to keep the boat long-term. It will continue to deteriorate and in the relative cost of boating, chain isn't all that expensive. Finally, I hate rust, especially if it were draining into my bilge.
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05-05-2018, 09:49 AM
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Guru
City: Gig Harbor
Vessel Name: Kinship
Vessel Model: North Pacific 43
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I would probably use it. Keep in mind however, that I am really cheap and don’t know much about chain.
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05-05-2018, 09:54 AM
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Guru
City: Longboat Key, FL
Vessel Name: Bucky
Vessel Model: Krogen Manatee 36 North Sea
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I’d probably dump it into a bucket of Ospho and agitate the contents now and then, keep on truckin.
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05-05-2018, 09:55 AM
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Guru
City: Concrete Washington State
Vessel Name: Willy
Vessel Model: Willard Nomad 30'
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Forget the chain.
Refinish the board the winch resides on.
You can paint the chain w cold galvanize spray paint.
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North Western Washington State USA
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05-05-2018, 09:56 AM
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City: hawaii
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It’s going to be messy to store, but it looks quite sound.
I’d carefully inspect the ends and renew any questionable connections.
If you boat in shallow sandy areas, you could slowly drag it in the sand for a while to clean it up.
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05-05-2018, 11:04 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kapnd
It’s going to be messy to store, but it looks quite sound.
I’d carefully inspect the ends and renew any questionable connections.
If you boat in shallow sandy areas, you could slowly drag it in the sand for a while to clean it up.
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I was thinking about that type of thing. My imagination envisioned a 50 gal drum, dump the chain in the drum, add some silica sand and roll the drum on some rollers similar to a rock tumbler.
Then I got to thinking, was the chain originally galvanized? If so, it looks like it is pretty much gone.
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05-05-2018, 12:03 PM
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Guru
City: Concrete Washington State
Vessel Name: Willy
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That’s why I recomended cold gal Dave.
It does fairly well re abrasion. When I first did an anchor mod and sprayed it w CG I thought I’d be redoing it monthly. But it holds up fairly well.
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North Western Washington State USA
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05-05-2018, 12:06 PM
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Guru
City: Gibsons, B.C., Canada
Vessel Name: Island Pride
Vessel Model: Palmer 32'
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 4,414
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Inspect the chain fairly closely. Sometimes a few links will be much worse than the others or so rusty they are actually jamming. If so and near an end just cut it off but if towards the middle then replace it.
If that is not the case, the chain actually just lightly rusty, then keep it for the secondary anchor setup.
Try tumbling it or dragging it on a gravel road to clean it up and then give it a blast of zinc primer.
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05-05-2018, 02:32 PM
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Guru
City: Cape May, NJ
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Overall it looks ok but you still have to check every single link.
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05-05-2018, 03:18 PM
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Senior Member
City: Blaine
Vessel Name: Slow Bells
Vessel Model: Marine Trader 38
Join Date: Nov 2013
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Quote:
Originally Posted by healhustler
I’d probably dump it into a bucket of Ospho and agitate the contents now and then, keep on truckin.
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I was thinking along those very same lines.
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05-05-2018, 03:28 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
City: Au Gres, MI
Vessel Name: Black Dog
Vessel Model: Formula 41PC
Join Date: Jul 2015
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I would keep it and move it to the backup anchor.
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05-05-2018, 04:16 PM
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Guru
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 5,036
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Our marina suggested to a friend there to drag his rusty chain down a dirt/gravel road to clean it up. He did and it worked well.
I would do that and keep the chain.
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05-05-2018, 04:34 PM
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Guru
City: Queensland
Vessel Model: Milkraft 60 converted timber prawn trawler
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Check the links for dia. after cleaning and get it regalved.
Ours has little to no galv left but will be getting a new 240 ft when next on the hard.
The stuff we use now comes up clean and shiny where it drags through the sand so when we head north we'll start running it all out to get it clean and get it regalved at Bundaberg.
$500 for regalve vs $2000 for new chain is a no brainer.
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05-05-2018, 04:46 PM
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City: Campbell River
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If you use the chain as is, expect to get a lot of rusty stuff on your foredeck that can be a challenge to clean.
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05-05-2018, 04:49 PM
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Senior Member
City: Punta Gorda
Vessel Name: La Bella Vita
Vessel Model: 2006 Mainship 34T
Join Date: May 2018
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Look for a plater in your area. If they can re-galvanize 100' of chain, they have very large tumblers. They will tumble it first then galvanize it. Like new!
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05-05-2018, 04:51 PM
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Guru
City: Queensland
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Conrad
If you use the chain as is, expect to get a lot of rusty stuff on your foredeck that can be a challenge to clean.
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Diluted Hydrochloric acid gives almost instant results.
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05-05-2018, 05:45 PM
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Guru
City: East Coast
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Vessel Model: Solo 4303
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I'll throw my 2 cents in with the re-galvanizing group. If you're in salt water, it's gonna be rusty and it'll be a mess, plus it will continue to rust and deteriorate. It looks pretty sound, galvanizing will keep it from deteriorating further, and it won't make a mess.
BTW, in 11 yrs of cruising, we've used our 2nd anchor exactly ONCE. Invest in a good anchor and rode, you'll sleep better.
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05-05-2018, 06:22 PM
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Senior Member
City: Blaine
Vessel Name: Slow Bells
Vessel Model: Marine Trader 38
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 327
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Conrad
If you use the chain as is, expect to get a lot of rusty stuff on your foredeck that can be a challenge to clean.
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I have already encountered the rust-on-the-deck problem. What a pain!
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05-05-2018, 06:58 PM
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Guru
City: Sydney
Vessel Name: Sojourn
Vessel Model: Integrity 386
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 13,329
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Quote:
Originally Posted by seattleboatguy
I have already encountered the rust-on-the-deck problem...
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Re galvanize,or accept rust on deck. Chain looks ok,the issue is weight and handling, getting it on/off the boat, to/from the galvanizers. Replacing it saves some movements, but preserve it if you can.
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2005 Integrity 386 "Sojourn"
Sydney Australia
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