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Old 01-25-2011, 06:14 PM   #1
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Rocna owners, seems you need a better anchor

The manufacturer claims his anchor is a significant improvement over the Rocna.* Be prepared to pony-up $1500 to $2500 for the "best."

http://www.quickline.us/stainless-steel-anchors.aspx

Meanwhile, I'm*holding onto a Bruce.* Perhaps*I'll upgrade on my 65th birthday after you guys/gals test out and applaud*Quickline's.
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Old 01-25-2011, 06:17 PM   #2
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The manufacturer claims his anchor is a significant improvement over the Rocna.* Be prepared to pony-up $1500 to $2500 for the "best."

http://www.quickline.us/stainless-steel-anchors.aspx

Meanwhile, I'm*holding onto a Bruce.* Perhaps*I'll upgrade on my 65th birthday after you guys/gals test out and applaud*Quickline's.
BOW BLING. Where do I sign???

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Old 01-25-2011, 09:24 PM   #3
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I may make the very aggressive step in the near future of moving up to a Bruce.
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Old 01-25-2011, 09:44 PM   #4
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RE: Rocna owners, seems you need a better anchor

Do you all really like the bruce? I have had very poor holding with danforth anchors but great success with the delta quickset plough anchors. Right now though we have a 33 lb bruce on our Monk. Took me a bit to make up my mind as to whether I liked it but really it seems to hold pretty good on the TN River thus far.
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Old 01-25-2011, 09:49 PM   #5
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RE: Rocna owners, seems you need a better anchor

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Do you all really like the bruce? I have had very poor holding with danforth anchors but great success with the delta quickset plough anchors. Right now though we have a 33 lb bruce on our Monk. Took me a bit to make up my mind as to whether I liked it but really it seems to hold pretty good on the TN River thus far.
Never had a negative issue with the Bruce in muddy SF Bay/Delta waters.* Doesn't bring up "tons" of mud nor wiggle and pinch my fingers like a Danforth type.

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Old 01-25-2011, 10:29 PM   #6
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I like the Bruce type because it performs better at short scope and rocky conditions.
It nests best on the bow and holding power is fine if you get a rather large anchor.
30% of the big fish boats in Alaska use them and almost 100% of small charter boats use bruce types.

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Do you all really like the bruce? I have had very poor holding with danforth anchors but great success with the delta quickset plough anchors. Right now though we have a 33 lb bruce on our Monk. Took me a bit to make up my mind as to whether I liked it but really it seems to hold pretty good on the TN River thus far.
Never had a negative issue with the Bruce in muddy SF Bay/Delta waters.* Doesn't bring up "tons" of mud nor wiggle and pinch my fingers like a Danforth type.
I have a 33lb Bruce. Not in love with it. Miserable to get set in eel grass. It just slides along. I also have about a 48lb Navy Babbit anchor, and not excited about that either. I'd like to try a Rocna, but don't anchor enough at the moment to spend the coin.

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Old 01-25-2011, 10:38 PM   #8
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RE: Rocna owners, seems you need a better anchor

We have a CQR and a Bruce hanging on the pulpit. We use the Bruce in the San Francisco Bay and Delta and have never had a problem. In fact, we've had to "trip" it off the bottom a few times when it's been well set.
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Old 01-26-2011, 12:32 AM   #9
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Do you all really like the bruce?
I think I have made my position on the Bruce clear in the past.* Based on our experiences with it we would never again have or rely on one.* It is my personal belief that this anchor design--- which apparently works great when sized and weighted correctly for a North Sea oil rig--- does not scale down effectively to the size and weight used by the typical recreational power or sailboat.

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Old 01-26-2011, 06:27 AM   #10
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The Bruce and Danforth basically use the same principal,

so a second anchor should be a CQR or North Hill to operate in different bottoms.
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I have a Bruce (well, a "claw") anchor on my boat. It came with the boat. I have never had a problem setting it, nor have I had a problem with it dragging. Where I boat there are some 2 to 3 knot reversing currents so anchoring and staying anchored can be difficult.

I suppose the 30' of 5/16" chain helps a bit.

I think it's important to remember than an anchor is something that you may eventually lose so I can't see buying anything more than what is necessary.* Certainly nothing stainless steel like some folks seem to think they need.

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RE: Rocna owners, seems you need a better anchor

rwidman,
"I think it's important to remember than an anchor is something that you may eventually lose so I can't see buying anything more than what is necessary.* Certainly nothing stainless steel like some folks seem to think they need."
I agree. Spending $500 or more on an anchor and then tie a string on it and lower it down into the unknown depths of whatever bay ir inlet. Except for the Manson Ray claws are cheap but I basically agree w FF. Carry a sack full of different types and FF*** ... I love the Northill. Wish they still made it. I've had my best luck w Danforths**** ...actually Danforth as it's w one anchor. I like your boat even though ther'e a bit light. Looked at several usually about $20K over my budget.
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Old 01-26-2011, 10:52 AM   #13
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RE: Rocna owners, seems you need a better anchor

A previous boat came with a Danforth that had been painted white. I didn't really think about it one way or the other until I started noticing that I could actually see it digging into the bottom when anchoring in shallow & clear water. *So about the only advantage I can see for shiny stainless is that you might be able to see it on the bottom under certain conditions. White paint is cheaper though.
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RE: Rocna owners, seems you need a better anchor

Of all the anchors I've tried, I've had the worst holding with danforth style anchors!
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Old 01-26-2011, 04:24 PM   #15
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RE: Rocna owners, seems you need a better anchor

My experiences have been primarily with Danforths, and they haven't been great - tend to foul a lot which leads to dragging. Looking at options before the summer, and tending toward the Rocna. I hope we're not getting too caught up in hype.
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Of all the anchors I've tried, I've had the worst holding with danforth style anchors!
Of all the anchors I've used over the past 50+ years (Danforth, Bruce, Northill, CQR and Delta), the worst holding was the CQR.

Only had it for a couple of months, but it made the Danforth look good.**Probably used the Danforth exclusively for 30 of those years, so understood it's limitations very well.* The Delta is clearly the best of the bunch for our boat/waters.


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I*find a new anchor, and guess what?, we all start talking about the pros and cons of other anchors.
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I*find a new anchor, and guess what?, we all start talking about the pros and cons of other anchors.
Your anchor is undoubtedly the best one for you.* Congratulations!

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I*find a new anchor, and guess what?, we all start talking about the pros and cons of other anchors.
Your anchor is undoubtedly the best one for you.* Congratulations!

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Uh, my anchor will be a Bruce copy, not one of those newfangled and expensive types.* Not yet anyway.

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Danforth never recommends anchoring with A Danforth (in his book)

He does recommend a Pair or more .

IF there was only one style permitted on board , it would be a fist full of " H "Danforths.
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