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Old 06-04-2015, 09:47 PM   #1
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Is this a quality swivel?

My brother in law has this swivel as an extra and what's to donate it to my anchor. Should I take it?
I should add its for the Viking loa 48' and 44K#
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Old 06-04-2015, 09:52 PM   #2
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No you don't need a weak point on your rode.
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Old 06-04-2015, 09:56 PM   #3
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I don't have a rode Oliver, I have a chain, 270 ft of it.
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Old 06-04-2015, 09:57 PM   #4
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Fancy and fun.. but I agree with above. It's still something ELSE to maintain and check.

I wouldnt think it would fail. Looks pretty beefy. But your hook is your lifeline when away from dock.
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What is your chain size and type?
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Old 06-04-2015, 10:09 PM   #6
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I don't have a rode Oliver, I have a chain, 270 ft of it.

Whoops. That's what I meant, sorry. But like I said it'll be the weak link. Use oversized shackles.
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Old 06-04-2015, 10:24 PM   #7
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What is your chain size and type?
It's 5/16" HT
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Old 06-04-2015, 10:34 PM   #8
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Very very dangerous. Send it to me for disposal
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No you don't need a weak point on your rode.
I tend to agree.

We have an all chain rode and use the largest shackle we could to attach it to the anchor.
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Old 06-04-2015, 10:41 PM   #10
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The safe working load of 5/16 HT chain is 3900 lbs. Grade 70 transport is 4700, grade 80 alloy is 4300. The SWL from the photo is 2000 kg. which is 4410 lbs. So you wouldn't be giving up much if anything. Why do you need a swivel? I don't have one and haven't missed it. What am I missing?
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Why do you need a swivel? What am I missing?
The obvious.. its shiny and cool!
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I want to clarify. I do NOT think it frivolous or wasteful. Just not needed. Definitely spiffy looking. Will it be a weak kink? Not in my head. Risk or damger using it? No more than anything else.
I do however just feel it is one more thing to check and maintain. Perhaps I should of bit my tongue before being lippy. My apologies if I took liberties.
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My brother in law has this swivel as an extra and what's to donate it to my anchor. Should I take it?
Yes.
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Old 06-04-2015, 11:05 PM   #14
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It's nice bow bling, but it does not help your anchoring or make you safer so why bother?

IMO, when it comes to ground tackle and many other areas of life, it's all about minimizing failure points. Good looks are great when they don't interfere with safety but good looks don't get you far when you're in a crisis.
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I don't have a rode Oliver, I have a chain, 270 ft of it.
What attaches your boat to your anchor is a rode. Chain, wire rope and nylon line and all combinations are an anchor rode. Has nothing to do w "all chain".
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I sell swivels but unless you have a problem with your rode, yes that is the correct term, getting twisted, I don't see a need for one. That one does look pretty.
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I use one as the only solution to getting the anchor up & over the bow roller without having to lean out over the bow and arrange things. Using the swivel allows me to complete the operation standing at the windless.
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That's interesting Darrell, as I have to admit that thus far, since I bowed to the majority opinion on here of not using a swivel and took mine off, the S-Sarca appears to have come up pointing the right way pretty much every time.
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Old 06-05-2015, 07:52 AM   #19
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I use one as the only solution to getting the anchor up & over the bow roller without having to lean out over the bow and arrange things. Using the swivel allows me to complete the operation standing at the windless.

Our situation is similar. Sometimes our anchor wants to return upside down, and also a shackle doesn't travel over the roller all that well. The in-line form of the swivel we use on our primary anchor -- similar to that pictured, but with a third joint for lateral movement -- helps me sort out the last few feet manually.

FWIW, Kong swivels (Google it) have a decent reputation. Presumably they can be over-stressed, just as shackles can be. I think the swivels we keep for our secondary rodes are made by Kong, maybe the same as pictured...

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I had one on another boat that bent and partially opened while at anchor. Never again for me.
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