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Old 06-05-2015, 10:29 AM   #21
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What attaches your boat to your anchor is a rode. Chain, wire rope and nylon line and all combinations are an anchor rode. Has nothing to do w "all chain".
(Whew!) Thanks, Eric.....I was wondering when someone would get around to that.
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I had one on another boat that bent and partially opened while at anchor. Never again for me.

Was it a Kong product? Or...?


I ask because it may be relevant to OPs query. Can't tell from your note whether you meant a Kong swivel failed, or some other brand/model failed.


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I had one on another boat that bent and partially opened while at anchor. Never again for me.
Was in a Kong swivel?
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I just compared the swivel to the thumb holding it in the picture. That thing looks huge. The swivel that is.
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Kong swivel. Add dog and peanut butter. Kong will swivel. (Sorry. Couldn't resist. In throes of puppy raising.)
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Old 06-05-2015, 06:56 PM   #26
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Greetings,
Mr. dw. what kind of puppy? I would recommend one of these. They squeak.

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Mr. RT:

I'm afraid that that won't squeak for long after our 55lb, 4 1/2 month old Lab "Bos'n" (nickname: "The Moose") gets ahold of it. Numerous poor "squeakies" have already made the ultimate sacrifice.

The Moose demonstrating his delicate touch in The Old Crow (bottle) Dog & Kibble Show:
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Kong swivel. Add dog and peanut butter. Kong will swivel. (Sorry. Couldn't resist. In throes of puppy raising.)

That is about the single best investment the larger dog breed owner can make. 2 years of feisty chewing and looks ready to survive 3-4 more.
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Timely thread for me. I'm getting ready to install a new Rocna from HopCar, and the current setup has a Kong swivel with this shackle holding it.

Do I need the swivel? It feels pretty gritty when turning it. And would you trust your anchored boat to this shackle?

The chain is HT4 3/8.
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Cardude I'll run back to Miami and pick one up for you. The delivery charge is going to be steep!
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Ran out of JD, huh?
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Ran out of JD, huh?
Yup. Was hoping Moonstruck would bring a replacement keg of it up on his invasion of the North this week, but our nasty Yankee weather forced him into a premature retreat.
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rode does not mean rope...

rode is the flexible part between the anchor and the boat.

and if you have an all chain rode, you should also be using a bridle.
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Was in a Kong swivel?
I kept the swivel around for awhile for show and tell and eventually threw it away. It is my understanding that it is important to install a shackle between the anchor and the swivel in order to reduce the risk of the swivel separating. Yes, I believe it was a Kong.
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rode does not mean rope...

rode is the flexible part between the anchor and the boat.

and if you have an all chain rode, you should also be using a bridle.
Not necessarily a bridle...some of us use single snubbers sometines....especially if you don't have much chain out or are expecting conditions that might lift all the chain off the botton.

Probably as much to take the stress off the windlass than any reason most of the time.
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... And would you trust your anchored boat to this shackle?

The chain is HT4 3/8.
No, I wouldn't. That is the weakest link. It's rated far lower than your chain and of questionable material.

What I would use is a 7/16" alloy, US made, galvanized shackle with a WLL of 5,240 lbs which pretty close to the specs of chain you have. Just my opinion.

https://www.1st-chainsupply.com/atta...pa044alloy.htm
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Thanks. I can't seem to find one here locally. Will have to order one.
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Timely thread for me. I'm getting ready to install a new Rocna from HopCar, and the current setup has a Kong swivel with this shackle holding it.

Do I need the swivel? It feels pretty gritty when turning it. And would you trust your anchored boat to this shackle?

The chain is HT4 3/8.
No you don't always need a swivel.

I might not trust that shackle if it's just a generic Chinese one.

I'd be much more inclined to trust one from these folks: Shackles - The Crosby Group
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Timely thread for me. I'm getting ready to install a new Rocna from HopCar, and the current setup has a Kong swivel with this shackle holding it.

Do I need the swivel? It feels pretty gritty when turning it. And would you trust your anchored boat to this shackle?

The chain is HT4 3/8.
No…and no…!
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