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Old 04-05-2012, 09:02 AM   #1
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Optimum use of CQR?

After observing this unorthodox anchoring situation in my marina I thought I'd see what the anchorphiles hereabouts have to say about it.

Does this appear to be the proper and optimum use of a CQR? Would another anchor type be more effective in this application? I'm not sure bottom type comes into play in this instance and it does not appear that a slotted shank would offer any advantage or disadvantage in this case. I'll go out on a limb and suggest that the swivel installation could be improved with the addition of a shackle.

While my initial reaction was to identify possible shortcomings in this anchoring arrangement, I find it hard to argue with success as this vessel has held fast through our winter storms with nary an anchor reset.

Any thoughts?

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Old 04-05-2012, 10:27 AM   #2
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Perhaps it stuck out on the bow too far or it is a new anchor for that boat and it did'nt fit well on the bow roller/pulpit???
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Old 04-05-2012, 11:11 AM   #3
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Can't tell from the picture if its a genuine CQR or a cheap Chinese knock-off.
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Old 04-05-2012, 11:37 AM   #4
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Old 04-05-2012, 04:37 PM   #5
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Is that a rope or chain rode? I'm confused!
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Old 04-05-2012, 05:08 PM   #6
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I have seen several boats that are up close to the dock to meet the slip length requirement have their anchors some what like that, so people to not bang their head on them. When we moored on Lake Union our anchor was about head height, so when at dock I had the anchor sitting on the deck with foam and towels around the metal anchor roller thingy. So if they , it do not cause to much damage.
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Old 04-05-2012, 06:47 PM   #7
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It almost looks like the anchor is being used to hold the boat against the dock. Kind of like a large bungee cord except using the weight to pull the bow line in. Of course, I can't see if the bow line is tied off or not...
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Old 04-06-2012, 12:20 AM   #8
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Anyone worth their salt would know that a Bruce would be much better in this application. But I guess with enough scope, even a CQR can handle this load.

It really makes me wonder, though. What type of windlass...vertical or horizontal?
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Old 04-06-2012, 02:07 AM   #9
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See, you guys are going thru withdrawal symptoms, just hanging out for another anchor round....sorry..got nothin' to add which would not be Sarcastic...
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Old 04-06-2012, 02:30 AM   #10
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Anyone worth their salt would know that a Bruce would be much better in this application.
Definitely. The Bruce rules!

On the practical side, I'd be leary as there looks to be unnecessary potential for nicking the hull's gelcoat or paint. There are better solutions for a "bungee" effect.
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Old 04-06-2012, 07:26 AM   #11
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See, you guys are going thru withdrawal symptoms, just hanging out for another anchor round....sorry..got nothin' to add which would not be Sarcastic...
Ow! Pun too early in a.m. for me. Need coffee.
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Old 04-06-2012, 10:34 AM   #12
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I think it's a great solution and looks very
nautical for keeping a head knocker off the dock and not having to manually pull your breast line all the time to climb aboard.
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Old 04-06-2012, 04:10 PM   #13
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I like it! Ensures to make you check the windless operation before leaving the dock, great safety feature.
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Old 04-06-2012, 11:02 PM   #14
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No!
A CQR is clearly NOT the best solution for this anchoring application. A true old salt knows that a traditional navy style anchor is the proper anchor for this application. The CQR has clearly slipped placement and not properly maintained itself as a cleat as it SHOULD be doing in this application. Case in point, my attached picture. And P.S. YES portlights SHOULD be used to route 30amp shore power chords through as well! Yes...there is a lot going on in this photo.
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. Yes...there is a lot going on in this photo.
Yes, like, the power chord is too close to the water and dockline isn't neatly coiled, and that boat could use more cleats and or bollard.

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dockline not being coiled neat and tight is the least of that guy's problems!
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Old 04-07-2012, 06:04 AM   #17
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Greetings,
I happened along this thread by fluke and am trying to plow my way through. In attempting to grapnel the concept of the posted picture, I suspect Mr./MS. SH nailed it. The aforpictured ground tackle is being used as to hold the boat against the dock. In spite of the gravity of the topic, I think this (gravity) is the elegant answer.
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Old 04-07-2012, 11:52 AM   #18
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You guys should be ashamed of yourselves for rank'in on this guy for his lack of yachtyness. One dos'nt need to neatly coil his mooring lines to be a good seaman and any well seasoned boat owner knows a well vented boat is a plus. The power line in the water should'nt be a problem. I've been known to drop the end (w the plug from the shore) in the water but that DOES make me a bit nervous.

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So glas your back. Love your choice of words words fluke, plow and grapnel.

In Alaska we have plenty of untidy boats. I submit the Clara M as untidy but Id love to go to the places she's gone and I'll bet she went quite skillfully as well.
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Greetings,
I happened along this thread by fluke and am trying to plow my way through. In attempting to grapnel the concept of the posted picture, I suspect Mr./MS. SH nailed it. The aforpictured ground tackle is being used as to hold the boat against the dock. In spite of the gravity of the topic, I think this (gravity) is the elegant answer.
Ah, RTF, it would appear that the owner decided to cater nary to conventional docking wisdom...
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In Alaska we have plenty of untidy boats. I submit the Clara M as untidy but Id love to go to the places she's gone and I'll bet she went quite skillfully as well.
but that is some-large anchor and heavy chain!
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