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Old 02-18-2011, 12:05 PM   #41
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Mark,
They are fishermen and when it comes to anchors they think BIG and HEAVY. It's easy to criticize them but most all of them have done more anchoring than most all of us and they stay off the rocks and in a lot of bad weather too. Some fishermen use anchors that make the Forfjord look like "next generation" stuff. Ha Ha
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Old 02-18-2011, 12:12 PM   #42
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They are fishermen and when it comes to anchors they think BIG and HEAVY. It's easy to criticize them but most all of them have done more anchoring than most all of us and they stay off the rocks and in a lot of bad weather too. Some fishermen use anchors that make the Forfjord look like "next generation" stuff. Ha Ha
That first one looks like a Navy Babbit anchor.

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Old 02-18-2011, 02:13 PM   #43
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OK GOOD

I needed a bit of humor today Cary.
These guys actually use these things. These old anchors are called (I'm told) a
Dreadnaught. I think their name is related to the old battleships called
Dreadnaughts (SP?). Notice in the 2nd picture the first run of chain is the super heavy studded style chain. Most of these fishermen have decending sizes of chain (2 or 3 sizes)
starting w super heavy (6'), then very heavy (8') then fairly heavy (50') and then heavy nylon line. About half are all chain. The boat end is sometimes wire rope. This is one of the reasons I believe rode weight is of more value close to the anchor. Can't think of any other reason these fishermen would do this. But wondering why fishermen do what they do is not unlike wondering why cats do what they do.
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Old 02-18-2011, 04:02 PM   #44
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You should have walked up town (just a few blocks) as there's quite a number of wonderful places to eat there. We miss all the wonderful eating out down south.
There's lot and lots of Forfjords on fish boats here Phil. Have you ever seen one like in this picture? It looks like the skipper welded on extra fluke area for mud anchoring.
Everyone thinks the Forfjord is great. My friend in the Craig area w a Willard much like my own has a 65lb Forfjord and the hydraulic reel winch most fishermen use. Unlike a Danforth the flukes on the Forfjord angle outward instead of inward like the Danforth types. A lot of boats like Carl's have the Forfjord.



We did eat at a restaurant down town, but not as cozy/quaint with no marina view.


Adding to the fluke is not a bad idea?* I think the forfjord anchor I have*is not big/heavy enough so adding to the fluke to make it wider and heavier might do it.**I was going to have the flukes sharpened as I notice how sharp/pointed most of the new anchors are, which would help to dig in.* Where as the flukes and point of the forfjord are dull.*


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Old 02-18-2011, 10:57 PM   #45
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Phil,I'd get a new anchor if your'e not happy w it.
It's my guess the fisherman dragged his anchor in a gale over mud and added area
Thinking it may not happen again. The Manson Ray may be good for your boat.

http://www.manson-marine.co.nz/Ancho...or%20Tests.pdf
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The best anchor in the world is the one you can't lift.
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Old 04-22-2011, 06:43 AM   #47
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********* Sounds like a one time use anchor,** I like the security of a permanent mooring when they are available.

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New anchor buying decision

Let me try this again.

Many people have had one time use anchors.

Honey did you see where the anchor went?

The best anchor in the world could weigh up to 9 tons and no body can lift that thing.

I have come to the conclusion that having several styles and weights of anchors on board wound most likely do the job depending on the conditions , at least i have a choice, depending on local knowledge.

I am running with four anchors one of which i keep at the stern for an emergency and for quick deployment, the rode is flaked in an open ended tube bag.

The type and style of anchor is determined by where you do your cruising, the weather you may encounter and the bottom conditions , as far as a rode is concerned the heavier the better.
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In days gone by, the 8 man walking capstan was used to haul the anchor, with the crew singing songs." Yo ho ho ! and a barrel of rum".

For our sandy bottom here the proven danforth takes allot of beating.

The best anchor in the world is no good, unless it is set properly and put under strain.




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The best anchor in the world is no good, unless it is set properly under strain.
*Don, Do you ever dive on your anchor and set it by hand?

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**Captain John P

*We do what Christopher Columbus *and Captain Black Beard did .

*Send the " Maison de Chef " over the side for a look see.

** Question *?

*John, do you have a Polly Parrot *with you *on your boat for musical entertainment and enrichment ?
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** Question *?

*John, do you have a Polly Parrot *with you *on your boat for musical entertainment and enrichment ?
********** Polly caught a cold from our Spring weather and took a cruise to Bermuda!

********* Take care of her for us.** Capt JohnP

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*Carl.

*We are not going any where fast, the wind blows up side down *and the paint will not dry.

*It has all been done before,

*nothing is new on this earth,with the exception of computers and anchors.

*Archimedes or Pythagorus did not need *a computer.

Every thing today is push button .

*Are we going around in an ever decreasing circle.*

*Down tools, *let's all go on strike.

The cost of living *goes up *even *for a barrel of rum .

We *take a pill for a cold , when a spoonfull of honey would do, without the rum additive cousin Carl.

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