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Old 06-19-2014, 12:10 PM   #41
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I agree Scott your 33# Bruce is undersized for a 37' boat. It should drag. Perfect for my 30' Willard though.

WAY oversized is just a waste and I suspect that most all dragging w Claws results by anchoring in very to extremely soft bottoms. Where most other anchors would drag too.

And as to being right or wrong one needs to consider that most all of us don't have dragging or other performance problems w the anchors we have ... That's largely why we have them. And most people have the anchor that came w the boat ..... more indication that basically all anchors are performing well. And since people have tried them and they work they feel strongly over time that that experience (it's personnel) justifies their "choice" of anchor and are to some degree offended whey some stranger on TF implies or suggests that they would be smart to dump their "proven" anchor and get some other foreign thing that guru #11 uses.
I think that's why we all (mostly) feel rather strongly about our anchor. Like a fellow soldier in the trenches. He may not be a better shot than the guy a mile away or even the enemy but he's your guy and he's special.
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Old 06-19-2014, 12:20 PM   #42
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Way oversized is a function of a few things...

Your philosophy of a couple hundred pounds mattering on a 30,000+ pound trawlers or for that matter a whole slew of boats.... doesn't really concern some people.

They know that many other factors have a much larger affect on boat performance, stability, ride, etc...etc... than a couple hundred pounds of anchor and chain...which for some may actually be beneficial.
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Old 06-19-2014, 01:11 PM   #43
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44-lb pivoting Max-16...

Looks kinda like the business end of a back-hoe.

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And with my background....I have never been surprised by thunderstorms while anchored...because I don't usually anchor if predicted unless in a really protected area....and even then I'm not "surprised" that a thunderstorm could form. As I said in a previous post, the high, gusty winds in a thunderstorms are a short lived event usually and usually not nearly the test of an anchor as a multi-hour storm.
I see your point that you always anchor as if there will be thunderstorms or the wind may blow up unexpectedly. And that is the same strategy I follow as well.

But I do choose to put out the anchor I believe will hold me in a storm first time every time I anchor.

In some ways I think a sudden violent thunderstorm is a good test of an anchors holding power. While a longer storm is the best test of the overall anchoring system you might be employing. Because it test things like long term chafe protection and shackle/swivel strength, etc.
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Old 06-19-2014, 05:19 PM   #45
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I don't have on-line storage for pics, so don't seem to have a way to pin any here.

That said, the maker's site has some decent pics: Super MAX Anchors

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Old 06-20-2014, 09:03 AM   #46
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And with my background....I have never been surprised by thunderstorms while anchored...because I don't usually anchor if predicted unless in a really protected area....and even then I'm not "surprised" that a thunderstorm could form. As I said in a previous post, the high, gusty winds in a thunderstorms are a short lived event usually and usually not nearly the test of an anchor as a multi-hour storm.
Thunderstorms are so common around here in the summer time that if I didn't anchor if predicted I probably would never leave the dock.
That said I have held during countless number of thunderstorms using my main anchor which is a Danforth. For some reason I always gop back to the Danforth because that is what works the best for me bar none. Maybe that's because I have learned how to use that tool well and I stick with what I know.
Plus there is the "typical" tx storm pattern around here that helps me prepare...
Rain before the wind....no big deal.
Wind before the rain....let out scope after you turn 90 degrees and hunker down. I often start the engine in this case and am prepared to jog against the anchor if necessary.
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