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07-29-2014, 05:44 PM
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Ideal windlass/wildcat info
Me again
I have contacted Ideal via email and have had no response
Does any have any info on this bad mamajamma ?
Ideal
C.W.M.
AC 76
CAM-1
Im wondering about min max chain style / size
what type of chain? BBB ? or
operation manual
motor specs
anything and everything I can get
Im unable to get any measurements at the moment.....what ya see is all I got
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07-29-2014, 06:09 PM
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Just call them, they are very helpful. Not so much e-mail and web types, very old school. Great company thats supports everything they have ever made in the last 80 years.
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07-29-2014, 06:44 PM
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Ill have to call when we hit the beach.... No phones out here
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07-29-2014, 06:53 PM
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I have the same windlass. I think I have the info you need. Let me check when I get home. Ideal complete rebuilt mine last year.
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07-29-2014, 06:56 PM
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Many times what chain the wildcat is designed to handle is stamped on the wildcat it's self.
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07-29-2014, 06:58 PM
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Rusty !!! that would be awesome
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07-29-2014, 06:58 PM
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City: League City, TX
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Quote:
Originally Posted by caltexflanc
Just call them, they are very helpful. Not so much e-mail and web types, very old school. Great company thats supports everything they have ever made in the last 80 years.
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That's right, they are very helpful. There are a number of support and installation downloads available on their website www.idealwindlass.com.
Contact Info:
IDEAL Windlass Company
Cliff Raymond, Owner
401-884-2550
Larry
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07-29-2014, 07:21 PM
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Ive been on there. I didn't see any downloads for mine
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07-29-2014, 07:52 PM
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Their website has quite a lot of info tucked away in it, not all that intuitive to find it. Its worth systematically going through the lot! But for your immediate needs:
Go to the 'Service Info' tab and you will then see under 'Size 1' that CWM is listed, click on it to get more details such as some instructions.
Your wildcat will have a code (letters/numbers or just numbers) stamped on the inside, but not as deep as where the chain runs. Once you have that, go back to the website and click on the FAQ tab. Then scroll down a bit and you will find a table. You should find your wildcat number in it.
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07-29-2014, 08:03 PM
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Actually, now that I look, the manual is online as are the instructions for that model , and how to identify what model you have and what chain fits in the gypsy. See FAQs for the latter and then Service Info for the latter. But call them anyway and make their acquaintance.
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07-29-2014, 08:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Electro
Ive been on there. I didn't see any downloads for mine
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You have a model CWM which later became the model H1F.
From the FAQ page:
The chain size and type is very specific to the different wildcats. All models are available for many different chain sizes and types. The fit of the chain to the wildcat is critical. Our wildcats have a number cast into them that identifies what size and type chain your wildcat will accept. To find this number look in the flat spaces between the ribs in the wildcat. This is the area where the chain rides. Measure the diameter of your wildcat and refer to the chart below for identification. If you cannot find a number or if it is not listed below, please call the factory. 401-1884-2550
5" dia. Wildcat
Chain Size and Type
1/4 BBB 1
1/4 High Test 5
1/4 Proof Coil 3A
1/4 Accoloy 5
5/16 BBB 2
5/16 High Test 2
5/16 Proof Coil 4A
3/8 BBB 8
3/8 High Test 13
3/8 Proof Coil 13
7" dia. Wildcat
Chain Size and Type
1/4 BBB 1
1/4 High Test 17
1/4 Proof Coil 2
1/4 Accoloy 9
5/16 BBB 16
5/16 High Test 2
5/16 Proof Coil 5
3/8 BBB 3
3/8 High Test 6
3/8 Proof Coil 6
3/8 Accoloy 7
8"dia. Wildcat
Chain Size and Type
1/4 BBB 1
1/4 High Test 18
1/4 Proof Coil 2
1/4 Accoloy 18
5/16 BBB 2
5/16 Proof Coil 3
3/8 BBB 3
3/8 High Test 4
3/8 Proof Coil 4
1/2 BBB 5
1/2 High Test 30
1/2 Proof Coil 10
1/2 Accoloy 10
More info is available on the Literature tab, but you will need to look for it, just peruse the topics.
Larry
M/V Boomarang
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07-29-2014, 08:22 PM
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Sorry George,
I was a little slow to pull the trigger on that one. Seems I am a little redundant tonight!
Larry
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07-29-2014, 08:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LarryM
Sorry George,
I was a little slow to pull the trigger on that one. Seems I am a little redundant tonight!
Larry
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No, just a little more complete than me!
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07-29-2014, 08:53 PM
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I still can't see the pages correctly. the lines a jumbled and not loading..... I believe the issue is on my end... Lack of bandwidth
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07-29-2014, 08:55 PM
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Larry you're the man !
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07-29-2014, 09:20 PM
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Electro. We have the same windlass. The model is CWM. It looks like it's identical to mine. Mine has 5/16" HT chain. I could not find any markings on mine to indicate the chain size. You would need to talk to Cliffe at Ideal about the various chain options.
I replaced the motor two years ago. That was an easy swap.
Alas, Poor Windlass | m/v Archimedes - An Old Grand Banks 42m/v Archimedes – An Old Grand Banks 42
The cost for that was $750. That included a new gear on the motor shaft.
About a year later, we sent it off to Cliffe and had the whole thing rebuilt.
New life for our old windlass | m/v Archimedes - An Old Grand Banks 42m/v Archimedes – An Old Grand Banks 42
It's probably something I could have done myself but we live some distance from the boat and it was easier to just have them do it. The cost was in the $700 range for parts, labor, and shipping.
I was worried about the capacity of the windlass. We have a 60lb anchor and 300 feet of chain. Cliffe suggested that was more than likely fine, but would recommend a bigger model if they were selling a new one to me.
I PM'd you a link to the manuals. I uploaded them to dropbox.
Cliffe is very helpful. Their hours are somewhat limited though. I seem to remember I had to call them before noon PST or they were gone for the day.
I hope that helps.
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07-30-2014, 09:14 AM
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You guys are seriously awesome.
Finding the Trawler Forum.......priceless
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07-30-2014, 10:06 AM
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Any idea what the AC 76 stands for?
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