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Old 04-14-2015, 05:42 PM   #21
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Rent a motorized moving dolly, they handle 1000 lbs and should easily handle the drum of chain. If needed pay a hefty helper. Use the windlass as mentioned to get the chain into the chain locker. Remember to put a three strand pennant on the bitter end.
If you have an electric windlass, take cool down breaks to avoid overheating your windlass motor......
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Old 04-14-2015, 06:44 PM   #22
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Lots of good ideas - thanks.
No convenient place to winch it from land, it needs to be brought down the dock.

I think I'll look into a cardboard drum on a 4 wheel dolly.
And of course - high tide!
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Old 04-14-2015, 09:16 PM   #23
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I'd schedule to have a new chain installed during a regular visit to the boatyard and have them deliver/install the chain. It was difficult enough self-delivering the eight-foot Trinka for this old guy even with some help.


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Old 04-15-2015, 06:25 AM   #24
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You could try dragging it along in sections, say 20' at a time.
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Old 04-15-2015, 09:17 AM   #25
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600# is nothing to fool around with by yourself. A 55 gal drum of oil weighs in around 350# for comparison. Either use commerical grade dolly or snake it out by hand.
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Old 04-15-2015, 09:32 AM   #26
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My method worked best of all.

Trading a couple Ben Franklins was extremely effective.

As Archie posted 600 lbs is allot of weight to deal with. A job for someone younger and stronger.
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Old 04-16-2015, 07:31 AM   #27
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One more possibility if it's not done yet...

Check local contractor equipment rental for a "concrete buggy"...

These bad boys are used to handling high loads (1,000 - 2,500 lbs) over somewhat rough ground and are powered... see Concrete Buggy
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If you have an electric windlass, take cool down breaks to avoid overheating your windlass motor......
Shouldn't your windlass be able to load all your chain at the dock without overheating? If it overheats at the dock, what about at anchor?
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Old 04-16-2015, 12:58 PM   #29
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Shouldn't your windlass be able to load all your chain at the dock without overheating? If it overheats at the dock, what about at anchor?
I don't think it will overheat if I am pulling 200 ft, but the motor was getting warm when I was reeling in 500'. At least I hope not....
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I have really enjoyed reading all these ideas. I moved about 300' of chain by myself using two dock carts. getting the carts up the ramp (one by one!) was a huge pain, those suckers were LOADED DOWN. If I had to move 600' I would be looking into some of these ideas for power equipment and definitely lessening the distance needing to be traversed!! I look forward to hearing how this works out!
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So two people handling two dock carts and high tide made the trip down the dock was super simple. IT really turned out to be a non-event...
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Why down the marina dock?

Many places have a wall or commercial dock , where the chain could simply be dumped (with a rope tail and buoy) so you could simply winch ai aboard.

Hopefully it fits the chain drum.
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My old boss was kind enough to help with my new chain.....
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Getting new chain down the dock

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Why down the marina dock?

Many places have a wall or commercial dock , where the chain could simply be dumped (with a rope tail and buoy) so you could simply winch ai aboard.

Hopefully it fits the chain drum.

Dont take the chain to the dock...put the barrel of chain in the back of a pickup truck (freight company will load it for you). Drive the boat to the nearest boat launch. Have your best friend drive the pick-up truck with the chain to the boat launch and back down the launch. Also put a 1/2 plywood 3foot X 8foot in the truck to slip under the bow of the boat as it nudges up to the boat launch (protect the hull). Use your windlass to off load the old chain into the back of the pickup (preferably into an empty barrel). Then on load the new chain from the barrel. Remember the barrels must be on pallets so a fork lift can lift them.

Using the windlass vs your back will be less painful.
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I still think the $200 I gave a couple of folks hanging around the dock looking for work was the easiest, fastest method.
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I used the back the pick-up under bow roller, and winch it aboard. Did have to lift the bitter end to the windlass, and secure it in locker, but did not raise a sweat.
My 400' was in a barrel, so heavy that I had them drop it off the back of their pickup, I then pulled it into 50 ft sections to mark.

But to answer your question, I then had to move it a few hundred feet. I moved the boat to a point with a direct line of sight, dragged the end to the windlass and let the windlass do the rest of the work.

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I still think the $200 I gave a couple of folks hanging around the dock looking for work was the easiest, fastest method.

Sometimes, you just have to write the check!
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If your dock is wooden planked, you may wind up with the weight breaking the decking. Concrete docks might handle the load better, but the PSI of chain centered over four small wheels may exceed what a wooden dock can carry.

I don't recall how much chain you're talking about, but the weight adds up quickly.
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With a barrel of chain in your pick up...back the truck up to the dock gate...pull on the end of the chain while walking down the dock until it's completely out of the barrel. Walk back up the ramp and grab the other end, walking it down the dock. Repeat this cycle until you are in reach of your windlass.
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Then I laid it all out on the dock and painted the chain white every 20 feet, then bright orange every 100 feet.
So, that was back in March and now I have 2 questions;
What paint did you use and how has it stood up over the 4-5 months?
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