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Old 08-19-2010, 09:48 PM   #161
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RE: Choosing the Right Anchor for Your Trawler

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You two are missing the point. There is a difference between moving forward to penetrate the bottom and moving forward once the anchor is IN the bottom.

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No, not missing the point Marin, read my post and enlarge the pic again.* The Sarca is designed to be slightly convex precisely because in the end they found with much testing it gave more predictable hold and then controlled drag if things got too extreme, but with less bottom damage, and certainly less bottom coming up on retrieval.* All anchors have a finite holding power, then they must drag through the bottom, or leap out, fortunately a rare occurrence for most.* However, it's a question of which is better characteristic when that limit is reached, and what does it do when that happens.
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Old 08-19-2010, 10:30 PM   #162
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Peter,I think what we're both trying to say is that the convex fluke is more stable * *.. kinda like a wing w lots of dihedral * *..Pigeons not Gulls. They said in the tests the SARCA lacked a bit of strength but made up for it in consistency and dependability. In another airplane analogy the interplane drag on the SARCA must be much less as the roll bar is skinnyer and larger in diameter.
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Well I'm glad you didn't think it was partially disguised BS. Very similar but no I was referring to you're guru Peter Smith. OK I take that back. All the pics I've seen of the Rocna being dragged on a beach looked like a mole was under there make'in like a rabbit. On our trip to Alaska on our Albin we had a small Bruce and it buried itself so deep it was hard to get out. Did that on several occasions.


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Eric,* you said you wondered if I would post in the anchor thread, so here goes.*

My experience is mostly with Bruce anchors, mostly in WA, BC, and SE AK.* Some 700-750 nights at anchor so far.*

I've also used a Fortress, which is great for sand bottoms like Lake Powell.* It's my backup now, and a stern anchor in narrow canyons at Lake Powell.

In the PNW the Bruce has never dragged, except immediately after setting in soft mud (rare) and very kelpy bottoms.* When we test the set and it drags, we reset until it holds, and it has never dragged after a successful test.* For my 26' boat I have a 16.5lb Bruce, with 40 feet of 1/4' HT chain and 300" of 1/2" rope.

P.S.* I'm tied up at the transient moorage in Thorne Bay tonight.

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Old 08-28-2010, 10:02 AM   #164
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Richard,It was fun to meet you last night. Now I've met all our the members from Utah! Got a few members and states to go.
Another thought for cruising is Tongas Is. east of cape Fox. It's sort of an alt to Brundage Inlet. And if you need a bombproof anchorage go up the canal to Winter Inlet. I've always tried to make it to Port Simpson but haven't done it. When we go to Ketchikan we go to the yacht club in Thomas Basin use their shower and eat at the New York Cafe.
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Old 08-28-2010, 10:14 AM   #165
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Hi Eric,* Sure was fun to visit!* Thanks for the cruising ideas.* I'll definitely come by to visit again in the future.
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Old 09-02-2010, 02:47 PM   #166
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RE: Choosing the Right Anchor for Your Trawler

Anybody using a SUPERMAX anchor?

http://tinyurl.com/34dn2w9


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Old 09-02-2010, 05:37 PM   #167
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Ralph,Yes. I don't remember who but they really liked it. I found an anchor test that included the
SuperMax.


http://www.xyzanchor.com/pdf/Practic...or-April06.pdf


Sorry it's not a hyperlink.
This is the only test I've seen the SuperMax in so it may be considered a mud anchor.


Ralph,
I found the guy w the SUPERMAX anchor. It's wingspar. He has a big sundeck in Seattle.


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Old 10-14-2010, 03:32 AM   #168
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RE: Choosing the Right Anchor for Your Trawler

At the risk of stirring this topic up again I thought I would post the link to this article I came across as someone might be interested

http://www.mysailing.com.au/news/anc...r-ending-story

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RE: Choosing the Right Anchor for Your Trawler

Allan,
I have at last been getting to test my new anchor. The SARCA Excel.
Must admit so far really impressed with the holding power.
4 different anchorages so far.
Pelican Point , Kauri Creek, Garrys Anchorage, Kingfisher Bay and tonight the SW corner of Big Woody Is. and this is a bit rocky.
Ventured north past Moon Point today for a bit of whale watching and saw some great performances from Cows and calves.
weather change commin thru so back down here and into Susan River tomorrow for a couple of days until the westerly component of the wind dissipates.
Head up to Rooneys along the beach hopefully Monday.

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Old 10-14-2010, 07:00 AM   #170
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RE: Choosing the Right Anchor for Your Trawler

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At the risk of stirring this topic up again I thought I would post the link to this article I came across as someone might be interested

http://www.mysailing.com.au/news/anc...r-ending-story

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Interesting and well-balanced article Allan.* Confirms my feelings and experience re anchors pretty much.* I'm still sold on my Sarca as a quick-setting great all-rounder.* Has the article prompted you to consider relegating your present anchor to back-up duty by any chance?* Looks like Benn's pretty happy with his too.

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Old 10-14-2010, 03:32 PM   #171
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I haven't yet as I am happy with the plough I have ATM but maybe one day.
I'll see what Benn says in six months time

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Old 10-15-2010, 06:19 AM   #172
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I bet he'll still be lovin' it....
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