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03-02-2019, 03:42 PM
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Senior Member
City: Kalama, WA
Vessel Name: "Restitution"
Vessel Model: 38' Californian
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 201
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Perhaps, yes. That is what I was thinking. I just read another post that discussed wrapping with leather and then getting leather wet to shrink it.
I may try both. Perhaps the most cost effective that has bred suggested is to see if we can retrofit a different rope/chain gypsy in place of the drum.
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03-02-2019, 03:44 PM
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#22
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Senior Member
City: Kalama, WA
Vessel Name: "Restitution"
Vessel Model: 38' Californian
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 201
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ranger42c
Good thought; maybe the windlass maker offers a gypsy/chainwheel option that can be swapped in... for not too many $$$ ?
-Chris
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Chris,
A fantastic idea. I just telephoned Englund Marine in Astoria and they said that they would likely be able to accommodate. I will keep you posted.
My best
Sam
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03-06-2019, 12:19 PM
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TF Site Team
City: California Delta
Vessel Name: FlyWright
Vessel Model: 1977 Marshall Californian 34 LRC
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 13,728
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When I bought my boat, it came with a Powerwinch with a rubber capstan. It worked fine for the line, but the chain would slip and not retrieve. I switched to a real windlass with a combo rode gypsy and all is fine.
I suspect that FF's idea of securing a line in tandem with your 40' of chain would end up twisting on the chain, interfering with the retrieve. Has anyone ever tried this on a line-only capstan?
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03-06-2019, 01:16 PM
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Guru
City: ketchikan, Alaska
Vessel Name: 'SLO'~BELLE
Vessel Model: 1978 Marben-27' Flybridge Trawler(extended to 30 feet) Pilothouse Pocket Cruiser[
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 2,206
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In a past discussion on this subject and as a result, I made an effort to anchor and retrieve both the anchor rode and chain using the rubber coated capstan designed singularly as a line only application. (Same capstan that Eric has or had on his boat). I was able to accomplish the goal of having the chain with a extra wrap, to complete the retrieval. It did not seem to mar the coating. Two things I consider with our application. One-I do not anchor all that frequently, Two, the weight of the chain and anchor is not so significant that I am able to hoist it aboard hand over hand. That being said, while it works for me where a smaller trawler is involved, on larger boat exceeding say, 35 feet the use may prove negative.
My original inquiry to the subject was based on my age in future years of boating where that hoisting action may require a modification or replacement of the winch.
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03-10-2019, 10:27 PM
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#25
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Senior Member
City: Kalama, WA
Vessel Name: "Restitution"
Vessel Model: 38' Californian
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 201
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Problem solved. I did wrap the capstan with inner tube and secured. It worked like a charm several times.
Thank you everybody for your input.
My best
Sam
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03-11-2019, 12:45 AM
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Guru
Join Date: Dec 2018
Posts: 565
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If you decide to go with a larger Bruce, I have a 30 kg Genuine Bruce anchor that I don’t need (replaced it with a Spade of the same size). The anchor is located in Bellevue. $300. The anchor was original equipment on my 2003 42 Nordic Tug. I don’t think the original owners used it much.
Send me a PM if you are interested.
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03-11-2019, 05:37 PM
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#27
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Senior Member
City: Kalama, WA
Vessel Name: "Restitution"
Vessel Model: 38' Californian
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 201
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You don’t happen to have 40’ of chain as well perhaps?
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03-11-2019, 07:21 PM
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Guru
Join Date: Dec 2018
Posts: 565
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No, sorry! Just the 40 feet that is going on my new spare anchor!!
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03-22-2019, 01:11 PM
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Senior Member
City: Texas
Vessel Model: 37' C&L Double Cabin
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 192
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Restitution
Problem solved. I did wrap the capstan with inner tube and secured. It worked like a charm several times.
Thank you everybody for your input.
My best
Sam
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Curious how you secured the rubber to the capstan?
Some adhesive?
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03-22-2019, 05:51 PM
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#30
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Senior Member
City: Kalama, WA
Vessel Name: "Restitution"
Vessel Model: 38' Californian
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 201
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nopistn
Curious how you secured the rubber to the capstan?
Some adhesive?
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I wrapped the innertube in the correct direction so tension will with rode will not unwinds the tube. Then I did two wraps with the Miracle Tape that they sell at boat shows to miraculously cure all ills involving hoses.
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03-22-2019, 05:59 PM
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Guru
City: Kitimat, North Coast BC
Vessel Name: Badger
Vessel Model: 30' Sundowner Tug
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 5,946
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Restitution
I wrapped the innertube in the correct direction so tension will with rode will not unwinds the tube. Then I did two wraps with the Miracle Tape that they sell at boat shows to miraculously cure all ills involving hoses.
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We have a small capstan winch and I've always hauled the chain portion by hand. Nursing a shoulder injury with a long recovery prognosis, so will be giving this a try. Thanks!
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03-22-2019, 06:23 PM
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Senior Member
City: Portsmouth, NH
Vessel Name: Irony
Vessel Model: Bayliner 4588
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 121
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Take the chain off and replace with 5/8 or 3/4 dyneema.
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Bayliner 4588
Portsmouth, NH
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03-23-2019, 01:22 AM
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#33
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Senior Member
City: Texas
Vessel Model: 37' C&L Double Cabin
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 192
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wood
Take the chain off and replace with 5/8 or 3/4 dyneema.
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Yes but isn't the last 20-40' of Rhode supposed to be chain anyway?
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03-23-2019, 01:25 AM
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Senior Member
City: Texas
Vessel Model: 37' C&L Double Cabin
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 192
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Restitution
I wrapped the innertube in the correct direction so tension will with rode will not unwinds the tube. Then I did two wraps with the Miracle Tape that they sell at boat shows to miraculously cure all ills involving hoses.
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Ok, I was thinking of some kind of inner tube patch glue might be good.
So if your case the miracle tape is actually providing the friction, not the rubber right?
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03-23-2019, 10:42 AM
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#35
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Senior Member
City: Kalama, WA
Vessel Name: "Restitution"
Vessel Model: 38' Californian
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 201
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nopistn
Ok, I was thinking of some kind of inner tube patch glue might be good.
So if your case the miracle tape is actually providing the friction, not the rubber right?
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No, I wrapped a bicycle tube tightly around the entire capstan two to three times. Then used a small enough piece of rubber tape to make one revolution around capstan to secure the end of the tube.
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03-24-2019, 02:15 AM
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#36
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Senior Member
City: Texas
Vessel Model: 37' C&L Double Cabin
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 192
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Restitution
No, I wrapped a bicycle tube tightly around the entire capstan two to three times. Then used a small enough piece of rubber tape to make one revolution around capstan to secure the end of the tube.
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Ahh, I was thinking some kind of wide/thick tube like a tractor inner tube.
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