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Old 05-28-2012, 04:31 PM   #1
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Bruce anchor puts 40-plus foot cruiser on the rocks

Thought that would get your attention.. Anyway, the cruiser I mentioned in the "Binoculars" thread that dragged up onto the rocks floated free last night on the high tide. At least we assume it floated free and didn't slip off and sink. It wasn't there when we left the island this morning and ran around to check. Whether it was able to leave under its own power or had to be towed we don't know.

If they were able to leave under their own power on one or both engines they were very, very lucky to "land" on the reef just right and then not tip over as the tide went out. I'll try to remember to post a photo tonight when we get home.

Meanwhile we're sitting here on the boat listening to call after call on the VHF for assistance-- out of fuel, broke down, or aground. Ain't boating grand?
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Old 05-28-2012, 06:31 PM   #2
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I like the title of this thread. But really, they dragged in winds that gusted to 25 knots and it's the anchors fault?
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Old 05-28-2012, 07:05 PM   #3
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Yea Larry ..........you got it right.

But Marin in you're post of Bruce bashing you probably should have used the word Claw. You're snoopy binoculars most likely could'nt make out what it said on the shank.

It's amazing how many boats go on a big rock on a falling tide and are sticking up on a small point of the rock looking like if a Seagull landed on one end the whole thing should tip over. Seen many many pictures like that.

If that happens to me I'll throw my roll bar anchor over the side and claim that's what I was using. Haha

I went back to read his "binoculars" post and he tells the tale pretty much objectively there and somebody even ASKED him what anchor the guy was using. Did'nt mention that it could be the first Rocna drag he'd seen. In all honesty that prolly didn't occur to him. Didn't occur to me for awhile either.
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Old 05-28-2012, 07:40 PM   #4
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You're right, they could have been Claws or Bruces or Bruce knock-offs on the boats that dragged in our bay. They all look the same from a distance at night through binoculars. I was told the anchor on the boat that dragged onto the rocks was a Bruce.
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Old 05-28-2012, 09:16 PM   #5
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Faithful reporting Marin except that the thread header suggests the "Bruce" anchor picked the boat up and dashed it upon the rocks. By the way I thought that bay was a mud bay.

Have you been gone recently? Haven't seen much of you lately. Sure like that Navimatics app. It's so fast w the touch control screen. I'm still waiting for the cigarette lighter plug in charger. Wo'nt last long w/o it.

Still no Rocna anchors up here on fish boats or any boat. If the roll bar anchor had no roll bar and managed to set I wonder how it would or wouldn't work holding a boat? It would probably stay set but I don't think it would have much holding power and I'm talking about the Supreme and the Rocna only. What think you?
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Old 05-28-2012, 11:58 PM   #6
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Hi Guys, had a coffee with Rex Francis at the Sanctuary Cove Boat Show on Friday, and he tells me he is working hard to get a shipment of Sarcas over your way quite soon, so watch the space, so to speak. Eric, they now have a special alloy version of the Excel, which sets and holds really well, but would allow one to have a larger size for more fluke area but not weigh too much at the same time. The design is such it is not so dependent for weight to work like the Claw/Bruce, whatevers, so it could be your perfect answer...so don't go buying too many more for now I suggest, or you won't have room for one when they become available.
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Old 05-29-2012, 01:06 AM   #7
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As promised here are some photos. The bay is Shallow Bay on Sucia Island in the San Juans. The boat is from BC. Don't know the make-- there are a bazillion kinds of boats out there with the same basic lines and they all look the same to me.

From the tight shot it appears that the running gear survived okay--- like our GB the keel extends down considerably lower than the rudders and props. So it's very likely that when it refloated they simply drove away. Last night the winds were light to non-existant so they would not have had much if anything trying to push them around on the reef as the tide came up around midnight or later. If my guess is correct, a very, very lucky escape.
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Sweet Hey skipper this was a 3 hour cruise right ??
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Sad sight, but I have to say our 21 ton Krogen has hung on a 66# genuine Bruce through several gales, tide changes (direction reversals), soft, hard, deep, shallow, windy places and we're still afloat. Guess it's just what works for you. For sure, if the wind hits 60 that 3 to 1 scope you used will be a problem. Be careful out there.
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Marin: Shallow Bay wasn't the only place in the area that had issues that night.

Howling winds take toll on boaters in Fossil Bay - Journal of the San Juan Islands
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You got that right Larry! We were in Bowman Bay bouncing up and down from 2000 hrs to 0400 hrs, not a night for rest. Watched several boats chew through dock lines on failing bull rails. Wish the state had the funds to fix things instead of this no money for nada time we're suffering through.

Hope you guys are enjoying your adventure & wish we we're with you.
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Old 06-11-2012, 10:35 PM   #12
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Marin: Shallow Bay wasn't the only place in the area that had issues that night.

Howling winds take toll on boaters in Fossil Bay - Journal of the San Juan Islands
I know. We were in Fossil that night with Carey and his wife. The two boats that had the worst problems with dragging had Bruce anchors, too. Or at least claw-types. Couldn't read the brand names from a distance and in silhouette against all the flashlights and searchlights.
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Did the anchor fail or was it not set properly? Most cases it is not the anchor. My Bruce failed miserably once. Or should I say that I failed miserably in setting my anchor That night.
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Did the anchor fail or was it not set properly? Most cases it is not the anchor. My Bruce failed miserably once. Or should I say that I failed miserably in setting my anchor That night.
I have no idea.

We had enough trouble with our Bruce holding over the years we had it that we finally gave up on it and got something else. This was with all-chain rode and a scope of between 5:1 and 7:1.

As I recall, we only had a problem once with the Bruce setting. Other than that, it set fairly quickly in all the bottoms we used it in which was consistent with its reputation. And as long as no real strain was put on the rode it did fine. But when the wind and waves kicked up, that's when we, and other people we boat with, had problems with it not staying set.

Which I guess was to be expected given that the Bruce is consistently at or near the bottom in terms of holding power in most of the anchor tests we've read. We put it on the boat the day after we got the boat up to Bellingham because a) it seemed to be the most popular anchor in this area among powerboaters so we figured there must be a good reason for this, and b) we probably never really expected it to have to hold under higher winds and stuff. After all, this is the calm, protected, inside-waters PNW, right, not the exposed southwestern Pacific.
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What a crock of poop! Blame the anchor not his seamanship, right. The fact of the matter is that Bruce anchors ( and others) have held boats of all types in many wx situations. Is there no Captain accountability in this situation?
He probably blames his car when it runs out of gas because it doesn't get enough MPG!
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What a crock of poop! Blame the anchor not his seamanship, right. The fact of the matter is that Bruce anchors ( and others) have held boats of all types in many wx situations. Is there no Captain accountability in this situation?
He probably blames his car when it runs out of gas because it doesn't get enough MPG!

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Did the anchor fail or was it not set properly? Most cases it is not the anchor. My Bruce failed miserably once. Or should I say that I failed miserably in setting my anchor That night.
Actually looking at the picture, that happened to me last year in Maine.

It's possible it has nothing to do with anchor or dragging or scope or who the hell knows.

Maybe just too much anchor kool-aide
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