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Old 07-25-2014, 02:22 PM   #1
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Chesapeake Anchor Holding Power Test

Good day,

Just a quick note to let you know that during the week of August 4th, we will be conducting an anchor holding power test in the soft mud bottoms of the Chesapeake Bay aboard the 81-ft Rachel Carson, a research vessel that is owned & operated by the University of Maryland Center for Environmental Science in Solomons, MD.

Chuck Hawley, who is a long-time sailor with an impressive resume will be aboard to serve as an independent reviewer of the testing. Chuck was formerly the VP of Product Testing at West Marine for many years, and he was present at the tests we conducted in the SF Bay way back in 1990, and he was involved in West Marine's highly-publicized tests that were conducted in 2006.

We will also have aboard a solid group from the boating media as well, with writers from several of the USA's largest magazines.

I will keep you updated on the progress of the testing once we begin, which I am sure will be of great interest to many of you.

Have a great weekend,
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Old 07-25-2014, 03:07 PM   #2
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Thanks for the heads-up on this, Brian. When you say "We will be conducting and anchor holding power test".. is this a test sponsored by Fortress to compare their anchors against others? Regardless, it will be interesting to see the independent views and published rag evaluations. Do you have your test sites picked out? Will they include Rivers?

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Type: Research vessel
Tonnage: 78 GT
60 DWT
Length: 81 ft (25 m) o/a
Beam: 18 ft (5.5 m)
Draft: 4 ft 8 in (1.42 m)
Installed power: Two MTU 10V 2000 M-72 diesel engines, 2 × 1,205 hp (899 kW)
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Two Hamilton HM 651 water jets
30 hp (22 kW) Wesmar V2-12 bow thruster
Speed: 24 knots (44 km/h; 28 mph)
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Old 07-25-2014, 03:51 PM   #3
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Thanks for the heads-up on this, Brian. When you say "We will be conducting and anchor holding power test".. is this a test sponsored by Fortress to compare their anchors against others? Regardless, it will be interesting to see the independent views and published rag evaluations. Do you have your test sites picked out? Will they include Rivers?

Spec's on Rachel Carson:

Type: Research vessel
Tonnage: 78 GT
60 DWT
Length: 81 ft (25 m) o/a
Beam: 18 ft (5.5 m)
Draft: 4 ft 8 in (1.42 m)
Installed power: Two MTU 10V 2000 M-72 diesel engines, 2 × 1,205 hp (899 kW)
Propulsion:
Two Hamilton HM 651 water jets
30 hp (22 kW) Wesmar V2-12 bow thruster
Speed: 24 knots (44 km/h; 28 mph)
Hi Larry,

We are paying for the boat charter, the test gauges and data logging equipment (which includes a running line tensiometer), the competitive anchors, etc.

We have picked the testing site with input from the local university and Rachel Carson crew, and it is not far from where this research vessel is docked.

The location is at approximately Lat: 38°18'58.49"N and Long: 76°26'48.94"W

Thanks,
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I pass by the Rachael Carlson when we head out the harbor. To bad I wont be in the area that week. You could see the test from the waterfront.
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What anchor brands will be tested?
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I look forward to see what anchor will come in second place?
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Dwhatty,

Please see the below attachment.

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Well at least we now know which one is most likely to come in at the bottom of the test.
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Old 07-25-2014, 05:46 PM   #10
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Bill, you're a trouble maker!
As a Fortress dealer I can tell you
they are a first class company to deal with and they stand behind their products.
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I'm interested. And two thumbs up to Brian and Fortress for having the confidence and courage to present the test before the fact. Best of luck and may the Best Anchor Win!


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Old 07-25-2014, 05:54 PM   #12
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Could this mean no more anchor threads? Could the Great Debate be settled?
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Yep, this will settle it once and for all----that is until someone in the US gets a Sarca, and starts it all over again.
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I pass by the Rachael Carlson when we head out the harbor. To bad I wont be in the area that week. You could see the test from the waterfront.
Too bad, Dave. You could have been our officially designated TF observer. Looks like a fair assortment of anchor types. I can't deny that the recent TF ad for the Fortress anchors in California had me interested. I do keep a F-23 on my bow rail, mostly for a stern application, but I sure like the idea of storing an big-assed oversized (but relatively lightweight) anchor somewhere just in case. If it had been here in FL, I'd probably have done it.
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I've got a Fortress for a back-up/stern anchor although my primary is a claw. The claw brings up less bottom mud (thus less holding power?) and doesn't "bite" me with moveable fins. Also, my perception is that the claw is better in handling tidal current directional shifts, my primary concern.
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I think I`d rather see an independent organization doing the testing, but maybe no one does, and this is the only way testing gets done. Is soft mud bottom a fair all round test for all anchors?
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Good day,

Just a quick note to let you know that during the week of August 4th, we will be conducting an anchor holding power test in the soft mud bottoms of the Chesapeake Bay aboard the 81-ft Rachel Carson, a research vessel that is owned & operated by the University of Maryland Center for Environmental Science in Solomons, MD.

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Have a great weekend,
Brian Sheehan

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Why bother? We already know that the Fortress will show what it always has - outstanding, best of breed performance. But having said that, I await the result with bait breath!
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I am curious as to how clocking wind and/or tidal current shift conditions will be tested. It will also be important to document the setting process for each respective anchor and individual test. After all anchoring is at least 80% technique.
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Bill, you're a trouble maker!
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Ah, you might want to look at some past anchor test result.

Because my post was not a dig at Fortress. But a joke about how Bruce/claws always seem to come in at the bottom of anchor tests.
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