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Old 01-19-2016, 11:05 PM   #101
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Today I tested the Excel at the Sand/Gravel site (Point Hudson). A fair amount of current was running and somehow this has once again resulted in the camera becoming fouled for portions of the videos. Fortunately, the new camera mounts is basically indestructible so no damage to it or the camera.

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Old 01-20-2016, 12:34 AM   #102
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Here is the Excel at the same Sand/gravel site but this time with 2.5 to 1 scope.

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Old 01-20-2016, 02:24 AM   #103
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45 pound Mantus Anchor.

The anchor has the largest physical dimensions of this group of 45 pound anchors. When stowed, the toe does extend aft of Panope's stem. However, the small hull guard (that was custom made for the Manson Supreme) works perfectly to protect the hull paint.



First test is at the "normal" test area of "sandy mud". 3.5 to 1 scope.

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Old 01-20-2016, 02:53 AM   #104
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45 pound Mantus Anchor
Boy, did that Mantus ever dig in fast and looks like it didn't want to come up at all!
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Old 01-20-2016, 09:42 AM   #105
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Murry, The Mantus really is a great performer.

Here is the Mantus at 2.5 to 1 scope.

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Hi Steve,

I don't remember...did any other anchor almost bury its shaft at 2.5:1 like the Mantus did?
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Murray, The Mantus does seem to bury it's shank very easily but keep in mind that this is not necessarily an indication of how well the fluke is buried. Note that when viewing the Mantus from the side, that the shank is nearly a strait line between the chain attach point and the fluke whereas some of the other anchors have shanks that are in a pronounced "L" or "Arc" shape.

Just a theory, but I think that the Mantus shank shape and its tendency to bury may contribute to the anchor's very strong tendency to remain upright during the 180 degree res-set pulls.

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Here is the Mantus performing in the usual manner over at the "Point Hudson" sand/gravel site at 3.5 to 1 scope.

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Your boat is more a trawler whatever that may be, than many so labeled. Great tests.
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Great showing for an anchor that's only half set. Most of the roll bar is still visable. Now that I look at the anchor again it could be that just over half of the roll bar is submerged. I suppose w only half the Roll bar submerged it could be "set". What think?

No hesitation setting or coming around to a new heading.
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Thanks eyshulman,

Re: Panope as a Trawler. I hear what you are saying but perhaps the skippers attitude has as much to do with "trawlerism" than the configuration of ones boat. I personally enjoying motoring just as much as sailing and certainly see no shame in that.

healhustler graciously worked his photoshop magic on Panope. To my eye, without the rig, the handrail overpowers the rest of the boat. I have since removed the netting form the handrails (my daughter is growing up) so perhaps things would be more balanced looking now.

I reckon that even if I were to grow too old and frail to enjoy sailing, I would always have some kind of mast - even if it was just some short thing for hoisting stuff or to fly a steadying sail.

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Great showing for an anchor that's only half set. Most of the roll bar is still visable. Now that I look at the anchor again it could be that just over half of the roll bar is submerged. I suppose w only half the Roll bar submerged it could be "set". What think?

No hesitation setting or coming around to a new heading.
Eric, It looks set to me. I feel that the anchor will bury deeper if more pulling force is applied. Will the anchor be capable of continuing to dive even after the rollbar is buried? I don't know.

Keep in mind that the roll-bar on the Mantus is HUMONGOUS compared to other roll-bar anchors. Certainly, if one did manage to make the Mantus roll bar disappear, the fluke would be deeply buried.

Stay tuned for a Mantus "deep set" test. That is the one where I pull from the stern with 3 times the force. I really need a tugboat to answer some of these questions.


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Here is the requisite 2.5 to 1 test at the "Point Hudson", sand/gravel site.

I noticed the anchor did not set as "hard" at this short scope. Also, the anchor seemed to not bury quite as deeply and had much less resistance when retrieving.

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Mantus Anchor. Reducing scope test. This is the test where I first set the anchor in the normal fashion at 3.5 to 1 scope. Scope is then reduced incrementally until the anchor releases.

The performance of the Mantus in this test was impressive. Of all the anchors I have tested, only the Manson Supreme did better.

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Mantus Anchor. Deep Setting. This is the test where I set the anchor in the normal spot at 3.5 to 1 scope. I then move the anchor rode and belay at the stern of the vessel. This allows maximum pulling thrust by using forward engine power (Max forward thrust = 910 pounds).

The anchor performed very well. However, I stopped the test prior to the anchor achieving it's maximum penetration. The anchor was still moving horizontally and downward (unbeknownst to me) at a very slow rate when I reduced power. My feeling is that if I had kept the power on longer, the anchor would have eventually buried deep enough and stopped moving.

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Hey Steve, Readty2Go on here has a Super Sarca #7 55lb anchor for sale, unless sold by now. My evil thought is that if not sold, you might be able to come to an arrangement to test it. Of course that depends on your relative positions and distance apart, and I confess I don't know that at present....Looked you both up. He's in Florida, you're in WA, I gather that's not West Australia, (our WA), so is that Washington..? Possibly impractical...pity...

Actually, even if you bought it you wouldn't be disappointed. I could be so bold as to predict it might even displace your current favourite for your main go-to anchor...
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Pete, Rex (of Anchor Right) is one step ahead of you. As I write this, a Super Sarca #5 is enroute to me.

Yep, I am in Washington State, USA. A drive to Florida is a bit longer than I am willing to make!

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Here is the Bruce 44 (Genuine) being subjected to my "Deep Set" test. This is the test where I set the anchor at my normal spot at 3.5 to 1 scope with the rode belayed at the stern of the vessel. This allows maximum pulling thrust by using forward engine power (Max thrust = 910 pounds).

As you will see, the anchor was unable to remain engaged to the seabed even after increasing scope to 5 to 1.

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Your Bruce anchor setting tests matches what others have said: it sets well but lacks holding power.


I think that the reason it lacks holding power are too fold: less fluke area and a wide penetrating blade that limits penetration. Also maybe the sharpness of the blade is another factor which may be why cast knockoffs don't do as well as the real Bruce which is forged and may have a sharper blade.


The best anchors have a sharp angular point, weight in the point to get it started and lots of fluke area.


That makes me wonder how the roll bar anchors will do when the bar starts impeding burial under heavy pulling. Their large fluke area lets them hold well even when partially buried. But except for lack of a roll bar to help with initial setting, the Spade, Rocna Vulcan or the Manson Boss might do better in heavy pull tests.


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Re the Bruce shall we have a wake?

David,
Weight on the tip and sharp fluke tips are found on may very good anchors. But many other good anchors do very well w/o same.
You're right the Bruce has considerably sharper fluke edges.

I agree w you're last paragraph. I will be taking a small Supreme to Steve in the near future that has had it's roll bar removed.
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